Plan 9 from Bell Labs

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Post by MaskedRabbit » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 7:45 PM UTC

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Post by erkose » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 7:55 PM UTC

There's also the recent UC Berkeley release of Plan 9 under the GPLv2 available from https://github.com/brho/plan9 which appears to have been made available to support development of Akaros http://akaros.cs.berkeley.edu/akaros-web/news.php

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Post by kayman » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 9:01 PM UTC

Has anyone used Plan-9 have feedback on running it?

Re: Plan 9 from Bell Labs

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Post by ThomPete » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 9:02 PM UTC

As an interface designer Plan9 have always fascinated me yet I found it incredible hard to find many other designers who were into it's concepts.

I always loved the "everything is an object" approach and in a better world this not NeXT or Windows would be our underlying principle.

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Post by osivertsson » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 9:05 PM UTC

My experience with Plan 9 is from my first employment at Kreatel Communications and doing basic admin of the nCUBE/C-COR VOD servers that some of our customers used in production and we had for integration testing. The OS those servers ran, Transit, was apparently based on Plan 9.

Coming from a Linux and Solaris background the shell was quite basic to say the least! I remember on some instance that we for some reason wanted to bypass the web UI and hand-edit some file and the only editor available was some variant of ed...

But with a steady hand when doing such things and software upgrades etc it worked really well and was quite capable for the time (2006).

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Post by mercurial » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 9:13 PM UTC

ThomPete wrote: post #4

As an interface designer Plan9 have always fascinated me yet I found it incredible hard to find many other designers who were into it's concepts. I always loved the "everything is an object" approach and in a better world this not NeXT or Windows would be our underlying principle.

You may be interested in wmii [1], a tiling WM which is inspired by Plan 9 and uses 9P.

1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wmii

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Post by vezzy-fnord » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 9:14 PM UTC

osivertsson wrote: post #5

My experience with Plan 9 is from my first employment at Kreatel Communications and doing basic admin of the nCUBE/C-COR VOD servers that some of our customers used in production and we had for integration testing. The OS those servers ran, Transit, was apparently based on Plan 9. Coming from a Linux and Solaris background the shell was quite basic to say the least! I remember on some instance that we for some reason…

You're referring to sam, I presume? The commands are similar to ed, but the overall design is radically different.

Then of course, Plan 9 has one of the most versatile text editors out there: Acme.

The shell itself is rc(1), which cleans up the mess significantly from Bourne shells.

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Post by bluehazed » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 9:15 PM UTC

Always good to check out 9front if you plan on using plan9: new drivers, filesystem, more utilities.

Homepage: https://code.google.com/p/plan9front/

Releases: http://9times.cat-v.org/

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Post by RBerenguel » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 9:17 PM UTC

vezzy-fnord wrote: post #7

osivertsson wrote: post #5

My experience with Plan 9 is from my first employment at Kreatel Communications and doing basic admin of the nCUBE/C-COR VOD servers that some of our customers used in production and we had for integration testing. The OS those servers ran, Transit, was apparently based on Plan 9. Coming from a Linux and Solaris background the shell was quite basic to say the least! I remember on some instance that we for some reason…

You're referring to sam, I presume? The commands are similar to ed, but the overall design is radically different. Then of course, Plan 9 has one of the most versatile text editors out there: Acme. The shell itself is rc(1), which cleans up the mess significantly from Bourne shells.

I quite like sam, from what I've tried so far. I think it's an interesting take on ed (but I much prefer acme) I still have "learn basic ed (or sam)" as a far-away goal (always pushed down my todo list, since knowing the commands is not enough: using them is what gives power)

Re: Plan 9 from Bell Labs

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Post by burke » Mon, Dec 08, 2014, 9:34 PM UTC

mercurial wrote: post #6

ThomPete wrote: post #4

As an interface designer Plan9 have always fascinated me yet I found it incredible hard to find many other designers who were into it's concepts. I always loved the "everything is an object" approach and in a better world this not NeXT or Windows would be our underlying principle.

You may be interested in wmii [1], a tiling WM which is inspired by Plan 9 and uses 9P. 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wmii

I love wmii. It's the primary reason I resent OS X.