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Re: Piratebay strikes back

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according to:

http://webwereld.nl/nieuws/63922/pirate-bay-doet-aangifte-te...

(dutch) Update 22.03 uur: Joris van Manen, advocaat voor de stichting Brein, laat in een reactie weten dat het Experian-rapport voor Brein "geen enkele rol" speelt in de zaak tegen de beheerders. Het was destijds bij een brief aan de rechtbank toegevoegd in de zaak tegen Reservella. "We doen helemaal geen beroep meer op dat rapport. Het is ons bekend dat de gegevens erin niet kloppen."

Update 22.25 uur: Tim Kuik zegt in een reactie dat Brein zich inderdaad niet beroept op dat rapport in de zaak tegen de beheerders. Volgens hem is het rapport wel degelijk authentiek en afkomstig van Experian, maar bleek het niet te kloppen.

"Dit is afleiding, het zoveelste rookgordijn. Deze jongens blijven verstoppertje spelen. We hebben genoeg bewijs dat de beheerders verantwoordelijk zijn voor The Pirate Bay," aldus Kuik.

Persoonlijk doet de aangifte hem weinig. "Sunde zégt dat hij aangifte doet. We weten het nog niet. Ach, ik merk het wel. Van die vorige aangifte is in elk geval ook nooit meer iets vernomen."

Translation:

Update 22:03: Joris van Manan, legal council for Brein respons that the Experian report is no longer playing "any role" in the case against the owners [of tpb]. The report was added with a letter to the court in the case against Reservella. "We don't base anything on that report. We know that the data in there isn't correct"

Update 22:25: Tim Kuik responds that Brein indeed doesn't base anything on that report. According to him the report is authentic and it came from Experian, but it turned out not to be correct.

"This is just a distraction, the nth smokecurtain. These boys continue to play hide and seek. We have enough proof that as administrators they are responsible for The Pirate Bay", according to Kuik.

He's not bothered personally by the filing of charges. "Sunde says he's going to file. We don't know that yet. I'll fin out about it. That previous filing was never heard from.".

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That may all be true, but I can't believe that the court is going to be happy with a party that has apparently not retracted a report that it knew to contain false information.

Also, if Experian says they didn't make that report and Brein says they did, where did it really come from ? If it can be pinned on Brein that they did falsify information it is going to hurt them tremendously. One thing they do is continuously harping on being on the right side of the law, if they falsify evidence then that veil is pierced once and for all.

It will be very interesting to see how this plays out over time, but I don't think 'we're not using that report' is going to make this go away.

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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To be honest, I hope these guys are going to jail.

You must be a fool to believe that they don't own the pirate bay anymore, or are not associated with the keyman islands shell company running the company.

Alone mininova disclosed making > 1 million of profit a year, piratebay's profit must be much bigger, all from the copyrighted works of others.

Most of you wouldn't support piratebay anymore if your program/source code showed up there, except if it's opensource.

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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post #5

To be honest, I hope these guys are going to jail. You must be a fool to believe that they don't own the pirate bay anymore, or are not associated with the keyman islands shell company running the company. Alone mininova disclosed making > 1 million of profit a year, piratebay's profit must be much bigger, all from the copyrighted works of others. Most of you wouldn't support piratebay anymore if your program/source…

except that source code couldn't possibly show on piratebay.

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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post #4

Oh shit! Have fun with those forgery charges..

This is so hilarious, I'm absoutely loving it.

The amount of raw, undistilled incompetence boggles the mind.

Fighting a lost case and losing the case is one thing. Forging court documents and losing everything: PRICELESS.

It also speaks volumes about the mental capabilities of the individuals at work here. How absurdly stupid do you have to be to forge a document that can be trivially cross-checked with a phone-call at the issuing agency? This is not something where you can weasel out later with an "oops, didn't mean to". It's plain out fraud and I don't think judges have much humor in that regard.

Anyways, I think I'm gonna forge me a nice tax-return statement now and sue my state over it...

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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post #5

To be honest, I hope these guys are going to jail. You must be a fool to believe that they don't own the pirate bay anymore, or are not associated with the keyman islands shell company running the company. Alone mininova disclosed making > 1 million of profit a year, piratebay's profit must be much bigger, all from the copyrighted works of others. Most of you wouldn't support piratebay anymore if your program/source…

except that source code couldn't possibly show on piratebay.

Why?

Re: Piratebay strikes back

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post #5

To be honest, I hope these guys are going to jail. You must be a fool to believe that they don't own the pirate bay anymore, or are not associated with the keyman islands shell company running the company. Alone mininova disclosed making > 1 million of profit a year, piratebay's profit must be much bigger, all from the copyrighted works of others. Most of you wouldn't support piratebay anymore if your program/source…

With source code the major economic benefit is understanding and being able to modify that code, less so the code itself.

Source code available on pirate bay is useless unless someone spends a lot of time / money on figuring out how it works. This is why people can write in scripting languages without worrying about the "openness" of the source.

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