Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
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Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
#2I like some of the ideas in the CLI (live reloading on both platforms, live dom editing etc.), but indeed this is very much Ionic + Firebase-like 3 way binding bundled into a nice packaging.
Not sure I see the benefit vs. Ionic in itself to be honest.
Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
#3I like AppGyver - however when I try to run their Scanner app in the iOS simulator it seems to reload itself (even without file changes) relatively often. Is this intentional?
Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
#4I don't understand. I thought Ionic was AngularJS + Cordova so how can it be "Ionic + AngularJS + Cordova"? What is this exactly?
Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
#5Frameworks upon frameworks upon frameworks, running in a platform-dependent embedded mobile browser, wrapped together with AppGyver-specific API thunks for accessing some native functionality in a non-standard way. There's tremendous impedance mismatch at every layer here.
I don't feel these deeply convoluted stacks are ever the right way to build a mobile app... Unless perhaps in the situation where you're already familiar with something like Angular and you know for sure that performance and look & feel won't be important criteria.
Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
#6This is a coincidence, just yesterday i checked out Cordova, Ionic (on todo list, but the demo's on the APK's seem to slow :s), Supersonic seems quite interesting also (and a lot easier then Polymer)!
But what really interested me are the demos from Google (Namely Paper Elements as UI) with Polymer (it's like AngularJS, but it isn't): https://www.polymer-project.org/docs/elements/material.html
Fyi, an index of webcomponents for polymer is available on : http://customelements.io/
There's a designer tool for it: https://www.polymer-project.org/tools/designer/ , here's how to use it http://goo.gl/r8ovXN (it's a responsive maps application, with search input and speech input)
Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
#7Yeah I was wondering about what's different between this and ionic. Looks like some of the elements are 'native' rather than html representations of native elements such as tabs and slide out menus are done with native elements for performance reasons.
I like ionic but this looks pretty good, its forked from ionic. Will give it a run on my next project
Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
#8I think it's time to build my first app. This has to be the least intimidating frameworks I've seen. Can't wait to see how fast it is to use!
Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
#9I don't understand. I thought Ionic was AngularJS + Cordova so how can it be "Ionic + AngularJS + Cordova"? What is this exactly?
AppGyver employee here – the part from Ionic we forked is the great CSS defaults, so it's more like "Ionic CSS + AngularJS + Cordova + AppGyver stuff". What we bring on top of the CSS framework is native navigation, native UI components, data etc.
Re: Supersonic: New UI Hybrid Framework – Ionic, AngularJS, Cordova
#10Frameworks upon frameworks upon frameworks, running in a platform-dependent embedded mobile browser, wrapped together with AppGyver-specific API thunks for accessing some native functionality in a non-standard way. There's tremendous impedance mismatch at every layer here. I don't feel these deeply convoluted stacks are ever the right way to build a mobile app... Unless perhaps in the situation where you're already f…
Amen, less is more. I think certain programming languages and ecosystems just naturally attract these huge, convoluted stacks, and I don't necessarily mean JavaScript, but UI programming in general. This shit has all been tried before. If you're familiar with .NET, let's just think back to the atrocity that was / is .NET Webforms + .NET AJAX.
I think it's sad that certain people think that a frameworks like WPF or AngularJS are "great" or even "decent enough", it just shows you how abysmal the current state of UI programming really is.