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All Dressed Up for Mars and Nowhere to Go

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Re: All Dressed Up for Mars and Nowhere to Go

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To send actual humans to the surface of Mars requires several robotic missions first to prepare.

If we expect to make fuel for the return journey there, that needs to be happening before the people leave Earth orbit.

Ditto for digging the hole and putting in an underground habitat.

Building a greenhouse from glass made on Mars.

Growing actual food on the surface.

Each of these steps are critical and need testing before we send people. Otherwise it's a pointless test to find out which failure gets them first.

Re: All Dressed Up for Mars and Nowhere to Go

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Well written article!

As much as I would like to but I think it will probably never happen in the near future. Not because of technical reasons as some people state in the article. In my opinion the technical difficulties are not the most difficult things to solve in order to travel to Mars. Humanity went basically from 0 to space and on the Moon but this was only possible because of the political pressure where everything was dedicated to reach this goal. This included a lot of money and ten thousands of people. But most important it was the society who supported this goal no matter what. Today nobody really cares if people go to space and this makes it impossible for a hand full of people who do.

Re: All Dressed Up for Mars and Nowhere to Go

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To send actual humans to the surface of Mars requires several robotic missions first to prepare. If we expect to make fuel for the return journey there, that needs to be happening before the people leave Earth orbit. Ditto for digging the hole and putting in an underground habitat. Building a greenhouse from glass made on Mars. Growing actual food on the surface. Each of these steps are critical and need testing befo…

> If we expect to make fuel for the return journey there

The folks in this article do not plan a return journey.

Re: All Dressed Up for Mars and Nowhere to Go

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First: I thought this was a well-written article.

Second: although it is definitely not something I would seriously consider, I can appreciate that there are some people out there who are in fine mental health and would eagerly go on a one-way trip to Mars.

But third, when I read this:

Before he’d applied for Mars One, Josh had met a girl at the Redhead Days festival in the Netherlands. Eli did not have red hair, but was brunette; Josh was drawn to her easygoing demeanor, her effortless good moods, and they fell very much in love. But a shot at Mars would be a serious, life-changing turn of events, and Josh knew that he would have to fully commit if he was ever going to make it to the final selection. He didn’t even wait for the application deadline to break it off.

...I concluded that Josh was an idiot. Not for wanting to go on a one-way trip to Mars, not because of any career or lifestyle decisions he had made, but simply because he sabotaged his potential happiness based upon a promise of something exciting happening, made by people a world away that he had never met and who seemed to have a dubious command of the critical technical details of such an undertaking.

Ten years from now, when Josh is still on Earth, Mars One is considered to be another Biosphere 2 and Bas Landsorp and his pals have long since moved on to other commercial ventures, I suspect Josh will wonder about that brunette.

Re: All Dressed Up for Mars and Nowhere to Go

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First: I thought this was a well-written article. Second: although it is definitely not something I would seriously consider, I can appreciate that there are some people out there who are in fine mental health and would eagerly go on a one-way trip to Mars. But third, when I read this: Before he’d applied for Mars One, Josh had met a girl at the Redhead Days festival in the Netherlands. Eli did not have red hair, but…

I strongly suspect Josh knows exactly what he's doing, even if it's not exactly what he's saying he's doing.

Re: All Dressed Up for Mars and Nowhere to Go

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The point about the overabundance of oxygen (from the plants) that would require venting, but limited nitrogen, which would ultimately result in suffocation is one of those great little details that you don't normally think about when you think about living on other planets. There is so much we take for granted living day to day on a planet that we've evolved in concert with, that it's easy to overlook the little (and big) details that are so important for life to exist.
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