W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by darklrd » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 5:08 PM UTC

W3C declares HTML5 standard complete
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Re: W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by yuhong » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:20 PM UTC

Wonder when the IE standard support documents listing all the "deviations" from HTML5 will happen.

Re: W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by nostrademons » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:21 PM UTC

The other huge accomplishment of HTML5 is completely standardizing many fundamental parts of the web that previously were a mess of browser incompatibilities. 6 years ago, if you wanted to parse HTML, you might reach for BeautifulSoup, or libxml, or Hpricot, or Nokogiri...and they would all be subtly different in the parse tree they produced. And they couldn't do any better, because if you viewed the page in IE, or Firefox, or Chrome, or Safari, you might get a different parse tree.

Now, IE9+, Firefox, Chrome, and Safari are all basically guaranteed to look at the same page in the same way, and the "toolsmith" parsers like Gumbo or html5lib are all rapidly converging on the standard. So it's finally possible to see a page the way a browser sees it.

Re: W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by lucideer » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:24 PM UTC

The term "WHATWG" seems to be conspicuously absent from this article. I wonder where they factor into this announcement.

Re: W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by kyriakos » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:24 PM UTC

yuhong wrote: post #2

Wonder when the IE standard support documents listing all the "deviations" from HTML5 will happen.

latest versions of IE are pretty good regarding standards.

Re: W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by recursive » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:28 PM UTC

kyriakos wrote: post #5

yuhong wrote: post #2

Wonder when the IE standard support documents listing all the "deviations" from HTML5 will happen.

latest versions of IE are pretty good regarding standards.

I wonder when they will get as good as the rest of the browsers that are out. I still find more bugs in IE11 than any other current browser.

Re: W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by yuhong » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:28 PM UTC

lucideer wrote: post #4

The term "WHATWG" seems to be conspicuously absent from this article. I wonder where they factor into this announcement.

I think they already moved to living standard.

Re: W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by jaredmcateer » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:36 PM UTC

Does anyone know how is Doctype versioning going to work with W3Cs snapshoting of the living standard? Or are browsers just going to ignore W3C and stick to implementing WHATWGs spec?

Re: W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by yuhong » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:37 PM UTC

jaredmcateer wrote: post #8

Does anyone know how is Doctype versioning going to work with W3Cs snapshoting of the living standard? Or are browsers just going to ignore W3C and stick to implementing WHATWGs spec?

I think even the W3C rejected DOCTYPE versioning, it is still just .

Re: W3C declares HTML5 standard complete

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Post by dpkendal » Tue, Oct 28, 2014, 6:39 PM UTC

yuhong wrote: post #7

lucideer wrote: post #4

The term "WHATWG" seems to be conspicuously absent from this article. I wonder where they factor into this announcement.

I think they already moved to living standard.

Indeed, the W3C's work on HTML5 is irrelevant. It exists only for the purpose of giving the W3C-qua-organization the appearance of being involved in the further development of HTML.