Ruby Enterprise Edition Version 1.8.7-20090928 Released

shimonamit wrote: post #3

davidw wrote: post #2

So is this stuff getting folded into Ruby proper? If not, why not?

Good question. I'd like to know too.

This may sound silly, but I think it's the language barrier.

Also, Matz has been very loyal to the core group of Ruby maintainers even after Ruby has gone beyond fad status. Matz has been reluctant to put Ruby on a distributed SCM as well.

I expect all of these issues to be resolved within the next few years...

Re: Ruby Enterprise Edition Version 1.8.7-20090928 Released

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Post by ballen » Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 5:33 PM UTC

Also why aren't we all using or moving to Ruby 1.9, instead of sticking with 1.8?

Re: Ruby Enterprise Edition Version 1.8.7-20090928 Released

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Post by jherdman » Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 5:38 PM UTC

ballen wrote: post #5

Also why aren't we all using or moving to Ruby 1.9, instead of sticking with 1.8?

1.87 is a transitional release designed to ease some of the pain of moving to 1.9. Some gems and libraries, also, aren't fully 1.9 compatible. I think more so than even these is that getting people to change can be fairly difficult.

Re: Ruby Enterprise Edition Version 1.8.7-20090928 Released

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Post by evdawg » Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 5:45 PM UTC

davidw wrote: post #2

So is this stuff getting folded into Ruby proper? If not, why not?

As far as I know: these REE releases/patches are for 1.8.7, a release of Ruby that isn't quite being actively developed, only maintained. Stuff similar to this is being folded into the official Ruby interpreter, which is now at 1.9.1 (1.9.2 soon!).

The uptake of Ruby 1.9.1 has been slow, and people are staying on 1.8.7 for compatibility reasons. Thus, these patches are trying to bring better memory performance to the old but widely used 1.8.7.

Re: Ruby Enterprise Edition Version 1.8.7-20090928 Released

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Post by EvilTrout » Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 5:51 PM UTC

ballen wrote: post #5

Also why aren't we all using or moving to Ruby 1.9, instead of sticking with 1.8?

I migrated my site to Ruby 1.9.1 about a month ago and it was mostly painless. It's now running up to 4x as fast for some requests!

It's finally time to start developing entirely in Ruby 1.9 guys. Trust me.

Re: Ruby Enterprise Edition Version 1.8.7-20090928 Released

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Post by smithjchris » Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 5:52 PM UTC

That project should simply not exist.

I think the fundamental issue is that Ruby's VM implementation and lack of standards sucks utter cock.

Re: Ruby Enterprise Edition Version 1.8.7-20090928 Released

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Post by grandalf » Tue, Sep 29, 2009, 6:01 PM UTC

davidw wrote: post #2

So is this stuff getting folded into Ruby proper? If not, why not?

It probably will eventually... there are some cultural and linguistic aspects that are slowing down the process. Ruby is also not officially on a distributed SCM yet...