U.S. Law Enforcement Seeks to Halt Apple-Google Encryption of Mobile Data

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Post by coreymgilmore » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:02 PM UTC

U.S. Law Enforcement Seeks to Halt Apple-Google Encryption of Mobile Data
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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:27 PM UTC

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:31 PM UTC

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Post by Afforess » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:32 PM UTC

What a terrible article. Excerpt:

They have created a system that is a free-for-all for criminals

So we should give up all rights to privacy to help catch criminals?

What concerns me about this is companies marketing something expressly to allow people to place themselves beyond the law

Maybe that says more about your laws than the desire for privacy?

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Post by zachdunn » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:33 PM UTC

This is a bit like protesting door locks because they make it harder to pop in and look around.

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Post by mullingitover » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:34 PM UTC

Google and Apple's marketing teams must be relishing this. I'm guessing it's very dangerous in their departments right now with the champagne corks flying everywhere.

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Post by MCRed » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:35 PM UTC

Afforess wrote: post #4

What a terrible article. Excerpt: They have created a system that is a free-for-all for criminals So we should give up all rights to privacy to help catch criminals? What concerns me about this is companies marketing something expressly to allow people to place themselves beyond the law Maybe that says more about your laws than the desire for privacy?

My sympathies for the FBI's concern about people being "beyond the law" is lessened a great deal given the past decade of revelations of illegal actions at FBI forensic centers, and the complete lack of prosecutions, not to mention the NSA spying, etc. Even the TSA is in violation of the law (fourth amendment protects against search without warrant, USC 18-242 makes violating that a federal crime, and a felony if done while armed.)

I'd like to see the government stop being "beyond the law".

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Post by gnarbarian » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:35 PM UTC

They are going straight into "think of the children mode"

" Smartphone communication is “going to be the preferred method of the pedophile and the criminal. We are going to lose a lot of investigative opportunities."

Apparently "what about the terrorists?" isn't as effective anymore. Let's hope the public will see through their manipulative talking points.

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Post by happyscrappy » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:36 PM UTC

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>Apple and Google know that they will be losing customers, more and more

Until they actually do lose some customers this silly meme should die. Where are these customers allegedly going, back to dumb phones?

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Post by [deleted] » Tue, Sep 30, 2014, 5:37 PM UTC

happyscrappy wrote: post #9

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>Apple and Google know that they will be losing customers, more and more Until they actually do lose some customers this silly meme should die. Where are these customers allegedly going, back to dumb phones?

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