California “Kill Switch” Bill Could Be Used to Disrupt Protests
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Re: California “Kill Switch” Bill Could Be Used to Disrupt Protests
#2"Could"? I give it 5 years.
How do people see this as a good idea? There are already voluntary methods for this, so there is literally no good justification for forcing a state-controlled version on everyone.
Re: California “Kill Switch” Bill Could Be Used to Disrupt Protests
#3Won't kill non-phone devices. Those aren't as numerous, and maybe not as real-time, but they're very difficult to shut down.
Re: California “Kill Switch” Bill Could Be Used to Disrupt Protests
#4"Could"? I give it 5 years. How do people see this as a good idea? There are already voluntary methods for this, so there is literally no good justification for forcing a state-controlled version on everyone.
Exactly, but the bill makes it mandatory and default on for all smartphones in CA (which will probably lead to the same happening across the U.S.) - Ferguson protesters, watch out when police tell you to stop recording on your phones
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#5There's just too many backdoors in smart phones. That's why I choose to use standalone hardware that can work with any phone for my voice encryption project:
Re: California “Kill Switch” Bill Could Be Used to Disrupt Protests
#6Also, cops in California will be issued guns that they may use to arbitrarily murders citizens.
Re: California “Kill Switch” Bill Could Be Used to Disrupt Protests
#7"Could"? I give it 5 years. How do people see this as a good idea? There are already voluntary methods for this, so there is literally no good justification for forcing a state-controlled version on everyone.
The advantage to mandatory and default-to-on is that it will be prevalent and will therefore decrease the expected value of mugging someone for their phone. That is a legitimate benefit, and is not worth nothing. I'm still not happy about the trade-off, if the disable doesn't depend on an owner-controlled code or similar.
Re: California “Kill Switch” Bill Could Be Used to Disrupt Protests
#8Won't kill non-phone devices. Those aren't as numerous, and maybe not as real-time, but they're very difficult to shut down.
The problem is, how many people actually carry non-phone devices? There are a small handful of folks who carry around SLRs or iPod with cameras, but not many. (Since Google glass is paired with a phone, I'm guessing it would be bricked as well.)
I'm also curious if "Airplane Mode" defends against shutdown. While common sense says it should, it's an easy loophole for the thieves who are (ostensibly) the purpose of the shutdown switch.
Re: California “Kill Switch” Bill Could Be Used to Disrupt Protests
#9There are fundamental freedoms the government cannot and should not be able to subvert. Communicating with others, via any means necessary is one of them.
I feel I am politically very far away from many guns rights activists, and am wary of the practical outcomes of widespread weapon ownership, but at the same time I believe 2nd Amendment advocates are completely right to be wary of government's ability to strip individual power to protect and disrupt.
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#10Does this include access points like the MiFi hotspot?