Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by ossama » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 7:03 PM UTC

Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization
developers.google.com

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by kinlan » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 7:19 PM UTC

One of the authors of the site here.

We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by fleitz » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 7:26 PM UTC

It's too bad the Google+ team never saw this document.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by dannyr » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 7:31 PM UTC

fleitz wrote: post #3

It's too bad the Google+ team never saw this document.

How does this improve the conversation?

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by companyhen » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 7:45 PM UTC

kinlan wrote: post #2

One of the authors of the site here. We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

I think the content was nice and informative. A little bit of common sense, but that never hurts to include.

If you're interested in chatting on gmail I have a couple questions about monetization. Mine is @gmail.com if you want to shoot me one.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by conradfr » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 7:53 PM UTC

kinlan wrote: post #2

One of the authors of the site here. We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

You forgot the part where Adsense suddenly bans your account, refunds your money to advertisers and gives you no real appeal possible.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by silverbax88 » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 7:57 PM UTC

kinlan wrote: post #2

One of the authors of the site here. We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

I would like to ask how these recommendations are reached. Meaning, can you show hard data that backs up the assertions on how people buy, etc.?

I am not trying to snipe you or the site. I appreciate the effort. But in my experience Google recommendations (with Adwords or Adsense or which reports I should see) mean almost nothing and I rely entirely on my own data.

For example, the first article on the first page 'Let Users Explore Before They Commit' cites a research study, which I then have to click through a couple more navigation screens to find. Oh, except the page with the research study throws a 404.

https://developers.google.com/web/http://www.google.com/thin...

Other than that, the content is sparse. To be blunt at this point I (personally) would not come back because it looks like you didn't even test the site and you haven't actually read the paper and then on top of that haven't actually analyzed the aforementioned paper to see if it actually says what you're asserting it does.

I know this sounds harsh, but I'm being as truthful and direct as I can be because Google hardly ever actually has a human soliciting feedback.

Good luck.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by collyw » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 8:11 PM UTC

Be nice if I could get an adsense account approved. Or even a reason why its not been approved.

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by kinlan » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 8:31 PM UTC

silverbax88 wrote: post #7

kinlan wrote: post #2

One of the authors of the site here. We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

I would like to ask how these recommendations are reached. Meaning, can you show hard data that backs up the assertions on how people buy, etc.? I am not trying to snipe you or the site. I appreciate the effort. But in my experience Google recommendations (with Adwords or Adsense or which reports I should see) mean almost nothing and I rely entirely on my own data. For example, the first article on the first page 'Le…

Urgh, that is a url encoding error on our site. I have raised a bug (https://github.com/google/WebFundamentals/issues/664).

With regards to the study, that data was ascertained by working with direct user studies and taking feedback from them, I think we can certainly make this a lot clearer in the those set of documents.

re:sparse. Yes it is as we are still building this section out and fleshing out the guidance more, but we have worked with the team that did produce the study (It also turns out I am pretty good at making the bad examples of the sites). I do have one follow up question: Would you like to see code that espouses the principles that we are saying are good.

re: relying on your own data. I am curious, what do you look for?

Re: Google Web Fundamentals: Monetization

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Post by throwawayads » Wed, Aug 13, 2014, 8:43 PM UTC

kinlan wrote: post #2

One of the authors of the site here. We are very keen to get feedback on the content that web developers want to see with regards to monetization. For example one area that I am keen to see us grow is building components in sites that optimize credit card data entry.

Glib marketing to cover up the extremely aggressive, dirty tactics that Google employs with Adsense: https://medium.com/@ad_insider/googles-latest-monopoly-trick...