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Introducing the Internet.org App

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Re: Introducing the Internet.org App

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Post by djtidau »

What a good way to do some social good whilst also opening up a new userbase that was not previously accessible.

With Facebook and FaceBook Messages both in the available applications, they get a foothold there ahead of their competitors.

Re: Introducing the Internet.org App

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Post by thejosh »

djtidau wrote: post #2

What a good way to do some social good whilst also opening up a new userbase that was not previously accessible. With Facebook and FaceBook Messages both in the available applications, they get a foothold there ahead of their competitors.

Ah yes, because the very poor have a good disposable income.

Re: Introducing the Internet.org App

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Post by quink »

> The Internet.org app will be available first to Airtel subscribers in Zambia and we’ll continue to improve the experience and roll it out to other parts of the world.

And by coincidence this is how net neutrality as a concept will not be a thing in Zambia going forward.

Screw you, Facebook. Your efforts to lock in the next few billion into an ecosystem controlled by you are utterly despicable. http://i.imgur.com/5RrWm.png

If you truly cared about doing something good, how about creating something like standardising a low bandwidth HTTP header? How about just channelling money into actual investments in infrastructure? How about working on multicasting information cheaply out instead of unicasting it to every single locked in member of your ecosystem? Why Wikipedia and not Urban Dictionary, Internet Archive, Project Gutenberg or GitHub?

Please let us know if you're going to be the winners and losers picker in the way I can see from the screenshots of your app so we may, and this may be a tad hyperbolic, prepare your very well deserved destruction. Who exactly elected Mr. Zuckerberg as Mr. "I decide what free (pun intended) speech is"?

Re: Introducing the Internet.org App

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Post by dm2 »

I guess it's official, Facebook isn't going anywhere and will continue to become more and more part of our lives. They're getting close to the level of Google (which I do trust with my data because they are transparent about most issues before people start asking them to be).

http://newsroom.fb.com/pages-directory/

http://newsroom.fb.com/resources-projects/

We can avoid Facebook all we want but one of these days there is going to be an app or product that's superior to all competitors and were going to be required to use our Facebook login, for many of us it's already happened.

I wish they would allow us to restrict what information was given to apps, whether or not the apps "required" it. I never login with Facebook but sometimes check the permissions it asks for, all friends, all info, etc are the norm. I don't want any service to have access to my list of friends, photos (that not even friends can see), and any app my friends have can access my information, I just don't trust the apps/services not to misuse the data or to have the data stolen.

I'm starting to trust Facebook a little more, but it's going to take time. I do trust Facebook more than some sites like LinkedIn, but that's not saying much, LinkedIn will never have my approval.

More open-source technologies (and services) and less requirements to "connect your Facebook profile" would go a long way in my opinion. Give users the option to connect Facebook and the adoption rate (and trust level) will be much greater.

Re: Introducing the Internet.org App

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Post by tomschlick »

dm2 wrote: post #5

I guess it's official, Facebook isn't going anywhere and will continue to become more and more part of our lives. They're getting close to the level of Google (which I do trust with my data because they are transparent about most issues before people start asking them to be). http://newsroom.fb.com/pages-directory/ http://newsroom.fb.com/resources-projects/ We can avoid Facebook all we want but one of these days ther…

I believe you can. This is how to do it retroactively http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-adjust-app-and-web-site-pe...

I think there is an option for the same kind of control when approving an app as well (on the web at least)

Re: Introducing the Internet.org App

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Post by dm2 »

tomschlick wrote: post #7
dm2 wrote: post #5

I guess it's official, Facebook isn't going anywhere and will continue to become more and more part of our lives. They're getting close to the level of Google (which I do trust with my data because they are transparent about most issues before people start asking them to be). http://newsroom.fb.com/pages-directory/ http://newsroom.fb.com/resources-projects/ We can avoid Facebook all we want but one of these days ther…

I believe you can. This is how to do it retroactively http://www.cnet.com/how-to/how-to-adjust-app-and-web-site-pe... I think there is an option for the same kind of control when approving an app as well (on the web at least)

Ah, nice. Those have definitely been improved since the last time I made a site that used Facebook login.

2 years ago it use to be a data-miners paradise, you could grab almost all users data plus all data that their friends shared with only friends, it seems like they've updated these privacy permissions as well.

Apps do still have access to photos that I'm tagged in that I've got hidden as best as I can tell is possible, not even Google has access to that information.

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