Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by jasonlmk » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 2:29 AM UTC

Adobe's New Pen and Ruler
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Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by jljljl » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 3:22 AM UTC

I guess this is the result of Adobe's Might & Napoleon experiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULKXTKZor3A

Too bad about the name change, I thought the name Napoleon (because it's a short ruler) was charmingly clever.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by joezydeco » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 3:28 AM UTC

There will be a flood of products that take advantage of the touch "pressure" that iOS8 will allow developers to access.

This stylus from FiftyThree also looks promising: http://vimeo.com/98146708

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by justinator » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 3:31 AM UTC

jljljl wrote: post #2

I guess this is the result of Adobe's Might & Napoleon experiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULKXTKZor3A Too bad about the name change, I thought the name Napoleon (because it's a short ruler) was charmingly clever.

But, Napoleon wasn't short, compared to his contemporaries.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by eggy » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 3:33 AM UTC

I'll stick with my windows tablet and Sketchbook Pro. It already has compass, ruler, French curve and perspective available with the stylus or my finger. The whole point of an iPad is portability, not add-on gadgets. The software interface looks cool though.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by lettergram » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 3:35 AM UTC

I don't really like the feel of using these. I would much rather just tap two points draw a line and drag it where I want it. Why not use an entirely new design to make use of the technology?

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by prawn » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 3:45 AM UTC

Adobe's Ink and Slide page is here: https://www.adobe.com/products/ink-and-slide.html

Coincidental timing as I have been looking at getting a stylus or Wacom tablet for sketching layouts and quick notes while at my desk. My Jot Pro with Penultimate has been a bit average, unfortunately.

At that With the pen and touch line, you're anchored or near your laptop/screen and sketching is detached from the "ink" on screen. But everything drawn is right there where I'll likely want it in Photoshop, etc.

Not sure that this Adobe Slide ruler would be all that useful and the pen would come down to app support and responsiveness. From Adobe's video, it's hard to see what the lag on the pen is like. Ink requires a more recent iPad too.

Anyone got a current solution they're happy with? I'm thinking that I might need to upgrade my iPad at least.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by i_am_ralpht » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 3:58 AM UTC

joezydeco wrote: post #3

There will be a flood of products that take advantage of the touch "pressure" that iOS8 will allow developers to access. This stylus from FiftyThree also looks promising: http://vimeo.com/98146708

It's really interesting to me that most of these are just Bluetooth-connected buttons. There's no pressure or angle sensitivity in the FiftyThree Pencil, it's just a button.

I tried to find the "pressure" API in iOS 8, but I just found a new majorRadius field (with an error tolerance). Android supports a bunch of information (including "pressure" and radius) -- I bet you get pretty rich data on devices with dedicated stylus support.

I was able to connect to the Pencil from Android via BTLE and observe the tip being pressed and released (though not the eraser for some reason; maybe I have to write some value out for that characteristic to come alive?) -- maybe later this summer I'll try to make a basic Pencil-compatible Android drawing app :).

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by tritchey » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 4:03 AM UTC

joezydeco wrote: post #3

There will be a flood of products that take advantage of the touch "pressure" that iOS8 will allow developers to access. This stylus from FiftyThree also looks promising: http://vimeo.com/98146708

The touch pressure for paper is done with a new touch Radius property. The radius property on touches was available as a private API, but only made available publicly in iOS 8.

The Ink and Adonit touch pixel point, which are basically the same (We manufacture the Ink and Slide for adobe) use a pressure sensitive tip in the pen itself, and communicate that pressure over Bluetooth. This gives you a much higher resolution on the pressure, with the trade off of the BT stack latency.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by tritchey » Thu, Jun 19, 2014, 4:06 AM UTC

i_am_ralpht wrote: post #8

joezydeco wrote: post #3

There will be a flood of products that take advantage of the touch "pressure" that iOS8 will allow developers to access. This stylus from FiftyThree also looks promising: http://vimeo.com/98146708

It's really interesting to me that most of these are just Bluetooth-connected buttons. There's no pressure or angle sensitivity in the FiftyThree Pencil, it's just a button. I tried to find the "pressure" API in iOS 8, but I just found a new majorRadius field (with an error tolerance). Android supports a bunch of information (including "pressure" and radius) -- I bet you get pretty rich data on devices with dedicated…

FWIW, the Ink is a lot more than that, including accelerometer data, and pressure sensitivity.