Vegetarian Diets and Mental Health
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Vegetarian Diets and Mental Health
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#3As someone who never ate any meat or fish during the life and feels perfectly fine, stuff like this always makes me giggle.
And I just love to see how people take only one specific point out of article and exploit it ignoring everything else. Including very important statement: "no statements can be made whether the poorer health in vegetarians in our study is caused by their dietary habit or if they consume this form of diet due to their poorer health status".
So, yeah..
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they even state so in the "limitations" part.
I wonder who reviewed this paper? If that's their "limitation" I don't really see any benefits in their research (well, I am quite far from that area and might not get the whole picture).
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#5As someone who never ate any meat or fish during the life and feels perfectly fine, stuff like this always makes me giggle. And I just love to see how people take only one specific point out of article and exploit it ignoring everything else. Including very important statement: "no statements can be made whether the poorer health in vegetarians in our study is caused by their dietary habit or if they consume this for…
The blog post does conclude with exactly what you say: "What can we learn from this study? Are vegetarians are more likely to be neurotic sick people looking for dietary cures for what ails them, thus come out of the study looking more skinny, unhappy, and unsatisfied? Or are vegetarian diets nutritionally bereft leading to health problems, mental health problems in particular? We will never be able to get that answer from a study of this design."
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#6As someone who never ate any meat or fish during the life and feels perfectly fine, stuff like this always makes me giggle. And I just love to see how people take only one specific point out of article and exploit it ignoring everything else. Including very important statement: "no statements can be made whether the poorer health in vegetarians in our study is caused by their dietary habit or if they consume this for…
The blog post does conclude with exactly what you say: "What can we learn from this study? Are vegetarians are more likely to be neurotic sick people looking for dietary cures for what ails them, thus come out of the study looking more skinny, unhappy, and unsatisfied? Or are vegetarian diets nutritionally bereft leading to health problems, mental health problems in particular? We will never be able to get that answe…
Yeah, author does mentions that the study doesn't answers those questions. Still, I find the fact of writing a whole post based on one point, from the paper that seems to be pretty bad at specifically this point, to be disturbing (and sadly quite representative of modern journalism/blogging scene).
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#7this study is a cross sectional study of 15k people, but they only actually used something like 1.3k of those individuals in order to match up to the ~330 vegetarians to a person from a different group. (that is 13k discarded survey results...)
this type of cross sample matching (where the majority of the individuals polled are tossed away) is suspect, as is the time it took to conduct the survey and release the results (2007 is when the survey concluded, the study wasn't released until 2014).
imo, the writer of the blog post should extend a critical eye to academic studies (and see where they could be improved), instead of re-posting them as troll bait (and leaving out important scientific notions, like: we can't extrapolate from this study)
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#8As a vegetarian for over 10 years, I can say that this isn't surprising to me. There are all sorts of people who hop around different health trends to fix issues that they have in their lives, and many of them end up participating in a vegetarian diet at some point. You also have a group of people who falsely claim to be vegetarian (just to have something else to say about themselves, or due to a poor understanding of the diet). Then you have the clique vegetarians who needed an identity and social circle to settle into. Lastly, you have a lot of people who try out a vegetarian diet with a strong predisposition that they will suffer negative health consequences from the transition. These ones leave the diet a few days or so later because something is going terribly wrong with them. In short, there tend to be more factors to consider for those involved in a vegetarian diet. With people who eat meat (who I have nothing against), it tends to just be that that's what you've always done, what your parents before you did, and so on.
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#9From an interview with the author of this study:
""" ... Nathalie Burkert: No, no, that's not true. Based on our results, we conclude not that much meat is healthy. There was a press release with which we disagree. Since the results of the study are simply misrepresented. """
http://www.welt.de/gesundheit/article125270740/Vegetarier-le...
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#10The Austrian study that the author of this post cites has serious methodological flaws. In particular, in Austria it is common practice to prescribe vegetarian diets as treatment for various illnesses, and the authors of the paper failed to account for this fact.