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Yahoo, still an awful company

#1
Since Marissa Mayer took over as CEO, I thought Yahoo was heading in the right direction. Boy, I was wrong. Yahoo is as backwards as ever. No care in the world when it comes to customer support. They don't know how to run a business.

Today I had to speak to Yahoo Customer Support for my parents. They forgot their Yahoo mail password yet its saved on their iPad. Worst experience ever, with any customer support.

Firstly, I had to wait three hours to even speak to a rep. And the customer service line says 'your call may not be answered today.' Ridiculousness!

The rep wouldn't even give me her name or employee number to report her. She basically said if we don't know the answer to the secret questions, we can't get the account back. I told her that we would fax photo identification, social security card, etc if necessary to prove the ownership of the account. Additionally, I let her know that we still had access to the account via the iPad mail yet didn't know the password. She actually would not transfer me to a manager or even give a name. Her exact words were "I'm the only one here. Goodbye." and then hung up on me. For a company trying to beat Google, I cannot believe I had to put up with this shit. Seriously, Yahoo is an awful awful company.

I don't know what to do next. My parents run a business and the Yahoo email is necessary for their business. I cannot believe how unprofessional Yahoo is and furthermore uncaring.

Any ideas?

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#3
Pretty much agree with all you have to say about Yahoo! but from what I've seen they're on a par with Google. I've seen many folks battling to even get hold of a human being at Google to have account issues rectified.

I'd approach this in the following way:

- Sign up for an account with a company that specializes in email. I use Fastmail myself, but there are (many!) others.

- Purchase a domain relevant to their business and set up an email on that. joe@momandpop.com, that sort of thing.

- Update whatever refers to the old address (websites, flyers, business cards etc.) so if this happens again, you can switch providers but keep the same email address.

- Get a decent password manager application, and teach your parents to use it. I just use Emacs + ccrypt to store my secrets; they'll probably need a simpler solution but there are many available.

- Continue working on Yahoo! to regain control of the Yahoo! email address, assuming that's still important (e.g. customers will try to contact them on it). Try calling back at different times, email / online chat (if available) or even send a solicitor's letter. Realistically, though, I think that email address is gone for good.

If there's one important lesson to learn from this, it's that important email addresses should be on a domain you control, not .yahoo.com, .google.com, etc. etc.

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My first thought: Since you have access to the account, you should probably try forwarding all mail somewhere (or saving it if it can) in the mean time in case things go very bad.

Unfortunately the access is only on the iPad mail. I cannot change any of the forwarding settings :-(

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#8

You don't have the password, can't answer the secret questions, and want access to the account? Anybody can forge photo ID sent via fax, I'm glad Yahoo's doing a good job of protecting user accounts.

The questions were set years ago. Though documents can be forged, there have to be other methods to get your rightful account back if you are indeed the owner and there's something messed up with the secret questions. The account isn't on its own accord, it belongs to a _person_. What if a person is in an accident and has amnesia? They forfeit their online identities? Ridiculous....

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#9

There are ways to extract passwords from iOS backups, that might be a way to go? I believe the entire keychain could be accessed.

I tried Keychain Viewer package from a 3rd party repo on Cydia. It didn't get the Yahoo password unfortunately. If you know of any specific packages to try, please let me know. I got so angry when she said 'I will not give you my name. There is no manager here. Goodbye' that I threw my iPhone at the wall and shattered it to pieces. Now I'm also out $400. I really hate Yahoo .. :-/

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#10

Pretty much agree with all you have to say about Yahoo! but from what I've seen they're on a par with Google. I've seen many folks battling to even get hold of a human being at Google to have account issues rectified. I'd approach this in the following way: - Sign up for an account with a company that specializes in email. I use Fastmail myself, but there are (many!) others. - Purchase a domain relevant to their busi…

I agree with all your points. I actually do mail via postfix regular expressions on my own Debian server. Im slightly pissed that my parents have me digging them out of this predicament but hell, Yahoo! shouldn't make it any harder than it is. I've seen friends in the past fax Google identity documents to get their accounts back. So I believe Google is quite a step above Yahoo. Plus I've never been told 'I won't give you my name. I'm the only one here. Goodbye' and hungup on by a customer service rep. Especially after waiting 3 hours. This was humiliating and infuriating. I threw my iPhone at the wall and shattered it to pieces out of rage.
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