What Pakistan Knew About Bin Laden
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What Pakistan Knew About Bin Laden
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#2Link without paywall?
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#3In a democratic society free from fear of surveillance the real conversation would be: "what the USA doesn't yet know about Bin Laden" [1]
[1] http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_050503_bombs.ht...
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#4Link without paywall?
You can google for the title; NYT doesn't seem to paywall people coming through social media or google.
I personally prefer supporting quality journalism, however.
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#5In a democratic society free from fear of surveillance the real conversation would be: "what the USA doesn't yet know about Bin Laden" [1] [1] http://www.prisonplanet.com/analysis_lavello_050503_bombs.ht...
What do crazy 9/11 conspiracy theories have to do with any of this?
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#6TL:DR allegations that ISI (Pakistani intelligence service) was heavily supporting extremist Taliban up to at least 2007.
It is implied ISI lost control of at least part of the movement in 2007.
"After years of nurturing jihadists to fight its proxy wars, Pakistan was now experiencing the repercussions. “We could not control them,” a former senior intelligence official told a colleague and me six months after the Red Mosque siege."
It is possible significant portion of ISI is still compromised:
"People knew that the house was strange, and one local rumor had it that it was a place where wounded Taliban from Waziristan recuperated. I was told this by Musharraf’s former civilian intelligence chief, who had himself been accused of having a hand in hiding Bin Laden in Abbottabad. He denied any involvement, but he did not absolve local intelligence agents, who would have checked the house."
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#7Link without paywall?
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#8Jason Burke's "The 9/11 Wars" has an in-depth analysis of this very issue, recommended read.
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#9There's a satirical Hindi movie called Tere Bin Laden [1] about a bunch of bumbling journalists who find a Bin Laden lookalike and then attempt to trick the US into thinking he's the real Bin Laden.
I watched the movie after Bin Laden was killed and while it's reasonably funny, the part that I found hilarious is this sentence one of the protagonists utters when they run into the lookalike for the first time. In Hindi/Urdu it goes, "Gore saale isko Tora Bora mein dhoond rahe hain aur yeh saala yahan Lahore mein murgi paal raha hai." Translation: "So these fucking americans are looking for him in Tora Bora but who'd have guessed this fucker is raising chicken in Lahore?!" Note the movie came out before he was captured and I found it hilarious that a random Bollywood storyline turned out be the best guess about where Bin Laden was actually hiding.
EDIT: More seriously though, there's nothing surprising here. US agencies funded Islamic extremists in Afghanistan and Pakistan for decades because it suited their geopolitical interests. They were happy to turn a blind eye to the violence caused by Islamic militancy in Kashmir in the 90s. It's only when the Frankensteinian monster got out of hand and turned on the US itself that they started paying attention. But by then damage was already done.
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