Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
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Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
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Re: Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
#2Net neutrality has become law in the Netherlands after a public outcry about the traffic discrimination plans of the major mobile providers.
The issue is no longer only known to an obscure minority, and this in a country where the mood is very strongly against relinquishing any more autonomy to the EU.
In other words: if the EU attempts to nullify Dutch net neutrality (this proposal would override Dutch law), there will likely be a considerable backlash.
The EU explicitly revoking our online freedom could be the final nail in the coffin for Dutch support for the EU.
Re: Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
#3This sounds terrible. On the other hand I'd like to know what's the status quo right now in Europe. For example, are ISPs required to not block or restrict access to online services?
Re: Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
#4Our freedom online is threatened by every government, even those not our own.
Re: Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
#5The vote by the Parliamentary Committee on Industry, Research and Energy already took place today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7421545.
The committee voted against strict network neutrality, and for the possibility of differentiated "specialized services". The bill now goes to the European Parliament for vote.
Re: Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
#6Net neutrality has become law in the Netherlands after a public outcry about the traffic discrimination plans of the major mobile providers. The issue is no longer only known to an obscure minority, and this in a country where the mood is very strongly against relinquishing any more autonomy to the EU. In other words: if the EU attempts to nullify Dutch net neutrality (this proposal would override Dutch law), there w…
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Re: Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
#7This sounds terrible. On the other hand I'd like to know what's the status quo right now in Europe. For example, are ISPs required to not block or restrict access to online services?
I know the Danish courts has ordered Danish ISPs to block The Pirate Bay, so I doubt the status quo is that ISPs are required not to block online services.
Re: Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
#8This sounds terrible. On the other hand I'd like to know what's the status quo right now in Europe. For example, are ISPs required to not block or restrict access to online services?
I know the Danish courts has ordered Danish ISPs to block The Pirate Bay, so I doubt the status quo is that ISPs are required not to block online services.
Yes, but according to this, ISPs may decide themselves to block stuff, without any court orders. This is something MPAA has been pushing for a long time with ACTA, TPP, and apparently with this, too.
They want to bypass the judicial system, so they can censor stuff en masse, like they do with Google/Youtube and their automated takedowns, but since it's at the ISP level, probably at a much larger scale and in a more comprehensive way.
Re: Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
#9Is it about net neutrality ("all packets were created equal") or is it about censorship (by which I mean government actions like court orders to block sites and filters)? Or is it somehow about both?
Why is it the DEATH OF THE INTERNET AS WE KNOW IT when it's a new regulation that doesn't go as far as they want in the net neutrality direction? And all they want are some adjustments?
The idea of banning specialised services functionally identical to those on the Internet means banning all specialised services because you can provide arbitrary services over the Internet. Including TV and telephone which is what cable providers here usually sell in addition to Internet access.
Honestly, I don't really understand the issue at hand. Is there a concise, less agitating explanation somewhere?
Re: Your freedom online is threatened by an EU proposal.
#10The main problem here is ISPs as a bottleneck. Longer term we need to figure out how to bypass the bottlenecks, which seem to be increasingly acting as points of political control and surveillance. Such a project would need to have a legal and technical side to it. On the legal side there would need to be an area of radio bandwidth reserved for public internet. On the technical side you need mesh networking software and hardware. There is likely to be an evolutionary path between the internet we have now and something which is less dependent upon ISPs.