Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
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Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
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Re: Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
#2Good. I do not want open source to prevail. I want free software.
On a less provocative note, I don't understand the argument about web apps. There's tons of FOSS web application frameworks and widget toolkits, and the web is slowly conquering the desktop, for better or for worse. Has it not dominated?
Re: Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
#3Good. I do not want open source to prevail. I want free software. On a less provocative note, I don't understand the argument about web apps. There's tons of FOSS web application frameworks and widget toolkits, and the web is slowly conquering the desktop, for better or for worse. Has it not dominated?
No, it has not.
The future of computing is on apps coded against one of two proprietary platforms: Apple's or Google's.
Re: Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
#4Good. I do not want open source to prevail. I want free software. On a less provocative note, I don't understand the argument about web apps. There's tons of FOSS web application frameworks and widget toolkits, and the web is slowly conquering the desktop, for better or for worse. Has it not dominated?
No, it has not. The future of computing is on apps coded against one of two proprietary platforms: Apple's or Google's.
The future of computing is on apps coded against one of two proprietary platforms: Apple's or Google's
That's an overly narrow view that seems to equate all of "computing" with "smart phones / tablets". I don't think that's a very accurate view. A lot of what happens on computers has nothing to with either.
Re: Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
#5Mobile: dominated by Apple and the faux-open Android.
I have a 3.5 year old phone running Cyanogen Mod 10.1 (Android 4.2.2) and all the sources for it. How is it "faux-open"? It passes the ultimate test: it builds.
Re: Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
#6Good. I do not want open source to prevail. I want free software. On a less provocative note, I don't understand the argument about web apps. There's tons of FOSS web application frameworks and widget toolkits, and the web is slowly conquering the desktop, for better or for worse. Has it not dominated?
Similar to bitwize, I think the desktop is, for better or worse, for the largest population of users, dead. The cohort of 'casual' or 'everyday' users interaction model/experience is mobile and/or Tablet. And in those eco-systems favor closed source Apps. There are a number of factors that make that true at the moment, from the UX of owning the whole screen, to App store policies that forbid 'simply visits a webpage' type app submissions, and everywhere in between.
Re: Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
#7Mobile: dominated by Apple and the faux-open Android. I have a 3.5 year old phone running Cyanogen Mod 10.1 (Android 4.2.2) and all the sources for it. How is it "faux-open"? It passes the ultimate test: it builds.
For all the reasons everyone keeps mentioning here: the top apps people want for Android are not open source.
Re: Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
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No, it has not. The future of computing is on apps coded against one of two proprietary platforms: Apple's or Google's.
The future of computing is on apps coded against one of two proprietary platforms: Apple's or Google's That's an overly narrow view that seems to equate all of "computing" with "smart phones / tablets". I don't think that's a very accurate view. A lot of what happens on computers has nothing to with either.
It's quite accurate for consumer computing though. I just don't see that Android is closed source in that way; the implementation you program against to make the software people use on their tablets/phones is Open Source. Same with ChromeOS. Not so with Windows or iOS or OS X.
Re: Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
#9Mobile: dominated by Apple and the faux-open Android. I have a 3.5 year old phone running Cyanogen Mod 10.1 (Android 4.2.2) and all the sources for it. How is it "faux-open"? It passes the ultimate test: it builds.
For all the reasons everyone keeps mentioning here: the top apps people want for Android are not open source.
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Re: Open source has won the battle but is losing the war
#10Mobile: dominated by Apple and the faux-open Android. I have a 3.5 year old phone running Cyanogen Mod 10.1 (Android 4.2.2) and all the sources for it. How is it "faux-open"? It passes the ultimate test: it builds.
For all the reasons everyone keeps mentioning here: the top apps people want for Android are not open source.
It's not so much that, it's that a rather large percentage of the apps people want for Android won't run on AOSP. They require Android + Google Services, which are all closed.