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How Understanding the Process of Enlightenment Could Change Science

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Re: How Understanding the Process of Enlightenment Could Change Science

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This is only vaguely scientific and that only in the beginning of the article. It then progressively reads more like some excited, clueless retelling of other people's psychotic-like experiences. I can't even begin to understand the parallel to set theory mentioned in the piece.

Re: How Understanding the Process of Enlightenment Could Change Science

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My family knows Har-Prakash Khalsa well, and while this work appears to rely heavily on anecdotal descriptions of this condition called 'cessation', his photographic work that he develops in tandem to his meditation practice is pretty impressive. I'm not sure if that ads anything to the discussion, but the pictures are nice to look at.

http://art.harprakashkhalsa.com/exhibitions/true-nature.php

If people are interested in his meditation practice, he has some youtube videos up.

Steps to meditation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAUR0DNDnj8

Nature of the intellect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPrm7YaaU1Y

Re: How Understanding the Process of Enlightenment Could Change Science

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My family knows Har-Prakash Khalsa well, and while this work appears to rely heavily on anecdotal descriptions of this condition called 'cessation', his photographic work that he develops in tandem to his meditation practice is pretty impressive. I'm not sure if that ads anything to the discussion, but the pictures are nice to look at. http://art.harprakashkhalsa.com/exhibitions/true-nature.php If people are interest…

I do want to add that one of the frustrations that I've had with this type meditation work, specifically the Kundalini meditation practice that is the basis for this study, and that is that there's always a heavily structured pseudo-scientific process instructing a participant in the right ways of meditation.

There will be the different stages of the mind, or the different parts of the brain, all of which is simply taxonomic and not in any way related to anything scientific. So the learning of the 'ancient' or 'revered' system becomes the method to which true meditation can be achieved. Naturally this process, this method is nothing but fiction. Compelling perhaps, but still fiction.

Re: How Understanding the Process of Enlightenment Could Change Science

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I am not sure how this will be received by others. I don't want to experience a cessation of ideas and thoughts. Being able to quell my brain activity so that no thoughts or ideas remain is the opposite of enlightenment to me. I am proud that I am an intellectual, self-aware being. It separates me from the rest of the organisms in Nature. So why would I want to turn it all off?

Re: How Understanding the Process of Enlightenment Could Change Science

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My family knows Har-Prakash Khalsa well, and while this work appears to rely heavily on anecdotal descriptions of this condition called 'cessation', his photographic work that he develops in tandem to his meditation practice is pretty impressive. I'm not sure if that ads anything to the discussion, but the pictures are nice to look at. http://art.harprakashkhalsa.com/exhibitions/true-nature.php If people are interest…

I do want to add that one of the frustrations that I've had with this type meditation work, specifically the Kundalini meditation practice that is the basis for this study, and that is that there's always a heavily structured pseudo-scientific process instructing a participant in the right ways of meditation. There will be the different stages of the mind, or the different parts of the brain, all of which is simply t…

So? Why does do you need science's permission to do anything?

Re: How Understanding the Process of Enlightenment Could Change Science

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post #2

This is only vaguely scientific and that only in the beginning of the article. It then progressively reads more like some excited, clueless retelling of other people's psychotic-like experiences. I can't even begin to understand the parallel to set theory mentioned in the piece.

Yeah, the set theory bit was kinda bull shit. It's really nothing like set theory other than the word "contains". And the "Mathematicians have seen that far" sounds like typical snake oil selling.

Re: How Understanding the Process of Enlightenment Could Change Science

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do want to add that one of the frustrations that I've had with this type meditation work, specifically the Kundalini meditation practice that is the basis for this study, and that is that there's always a heavily structured pseudo-scientific process instructing a participant in the right ways of meditation. There will be the different stages of the mind, or the different parts of the brain, all of which is simply t…

So? Why does do you need science's permission to do anything?

I would say you need the laws of science's permission to do anything.
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