Obama Sued by Rand Paul Over Phone Surveillance Program
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Re: Obama Sued by Rand Paul Over Phone Surveillance Program
#2What about the Narus program which collects a major portion of the Internet traffic without any warrant and probable cause? Do they claim it's also legal?
Re: Obama Sued by Rand Paul Over Phone Surveillance Program
#3Take a look at the comments section if you want to see political tribalism at its best.
> I thought Bush orchestrated the Patriot Act... who knew..?
> Regardless of your opinion of the surveillance, you gotta see this as a cynical political move. Bet he wouldn't sue a Republican president. Isn't good enough to disagree with Obama - a candidate has to demonstrate outrage with him to gain cred with the base.
Everything is right vs left to some people. There is no discussion of the consequences of this action, just name-calling an unsubstantiated claims. I hate discussing politics because the cognitive dissonance and mental gymnastics required to fully support Republicans or Democrats makes my head hurt.
Re: Obama Sued by Rand Paul Over Phone Surveillance Program
#4More political theater from Rand Paul. If only he was as transparent to the average voter.
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#5More political theater from Rand Paul. If only he was as transparent to the average voter.
Would a similar suit by Pelosi also be theater to you?
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#7My two minutes of internet research says that this is going to get tossed. A President can't be sued for actions taken as President, but can be sued for personal actions.
A Daily Beast article mentions this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/01/30/can-bachman...
Re: Obama Sued by Rand Paul Over Phone Surveillance Program
#8Good stuff, but it kind of bothers me that so much focus is put on the phone surveillance program, when I find the surveillance of private Internet communications so much more damaging, especially since they are also the future of all communications.
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#9Why is the lawsuit against Obama? Shouldn't it be against the USG or the part of the government that passed the law (or against the NSA for the data collection)? It seems strange to sue an individual politician, president or not.
Re: Obama Sued by Rand Paul Over Phone Surveillance Program
#10Why is the lawsuit against Obama? Shouldn't it be against the USG or the part of the government that passed the law (or against the NSA for the data collection)? It seems strange to sue an individual politician, president or not.
I'm not a lawyer but my guess is because its not a question of legality, it's a question of an elected official breaking the law.
When the Mayor of a town embezzles the city's money... the city is the defendant not the plaintiff.