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'Revenge porn' website former owner Hunter Moore arrested

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Re: 'Revenge porn' website former owner Hunter Moore arrested

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Should it be illegal to operate a website that hosts user-generated content, some of which is illegal, if you take reasonable steps to remove the illegal content when informed of its existence?

The answer is pretty clearly "no." But this position becomes more difficult to defend when the entire premise of the website is based on illegal content. Something like e.g. if YouTube was originally named ShareMusicIllegally.com.

Actually, at this point in writing my comment, I checked my facts. It turns out "revenge porn" wasn't illegal until Oct 2013, and then only in California. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/revenge-porn-banned-in-californi...

So this is a very unusual situation. We have a business built on a concept which wasn't illegal until recently. Did he continue to try to operate it in California after the bill was signed into law?

One position to take is "Who cares. This is a good thing."

That may be true, but remember that if you have the right to host whatever legal content you wish, then the first step toward losing that right is to not defend it. Sometimes that requires defending scoundrels.

Honestly, I don't know what to think. Maybe this isn't an instance of that sort of situation. On one hand, there are concerns about civil liberties in regards to webhosting. On the other hand, this website was clearly vile.

What does everyone think about how this has played out? Businessman builds a morally suspect business; business is outlawed; businessman is fined $250k. Did he deserve it? Perhaps it was karma. Is it a worrying trend that website operators are becoming increasingly culpable for user content? What if there were a subreddit dedicated to "revenge porn"? Should Reddit be liable for damages under California law, and should the subreddit be banned even though there are far worse subreddits, both from a moral and legal standpoint? So many questions (though most of it is conjecture, and hence may not be very useful).

EDIT: It turns out that the $250k fine wasn't due to user generated content, but rather because the website owner defamed someone by calling them a pedophile. So maybe the rights of website owners aren't even in question here. Was there any legal action taken against this "revenge porn" website owner stemming from the website after it was made illegal in Oct 2013?

Re: 'Revenge porn' website former owner Hunter Moore arrested

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Should it be illegal to operate a website that hosts user-generated content, some of which is illegal, if you take reasonable steps to remove the illegal content when informed of its existence? The answer is pretty clearly "no." But this position becomes more difficult to defend when the entire premise of the website is based on illegal content. Something like e.g. if YouTube was originally named ShareMusicIllegally.…

> Mr Moore is said to have paid Mr Evens to hack into hundreds of victims' email accounts to obtain more nude photos to post on the website.

I think this is what they are charging him for - not for hosting genuine UGC.

Re: 'Revenge porn' website former owner Hunter Moore arrested

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post #3

Should it be illegal to operate a website that hosts user-generated content, some of which is illegal, if you take reasonable steps to remove the illegal content when informed of its existence? The answer is pretty clearly "no." But this position becomes more difficult to defend when the entire premise of the website is based on illegal content. Something like e.g. if YouTube was originally named ShareMusicIllegally.…

> Mr Moore is said to have paid Mr Evens to hack into hundreds of victims' email accounts to obtain more nude photos to post on the website. I think this is what they are charging him for - not for hosting genuine UGC.

It is the latest legal setback for Mr Moore, who was ordered in March to pay $250,000 (£170,000) in damages for defamation resulting from a civil lawsuit.

I may have misunderstood, but didn't this $250k fine originate largely due to the UGC on the website?

Re: 'Revenge porn' website former owner Hunter Moore arrested

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Mr Moore is said to have paid Mr Evens to hack into hundreds of victims' email accounts to obtain more nude photos to post on the website. I think this is what they are charging him for - not for hosting genuine UGC.

It is the latest legal setback for Mr Moore, who was ordered in March to pay $250,000 (£170,000) in damages for defamation resulting from a civil lawsuit. I may have misunderstood, but didn't this $250k fine originate largely due to the UGC on the website?

AFAIK users didn't actually upload content to the site. They submitted it and then Mr Moore or someone else posted it. I'm also pretty sure he wouldn't honour take down requests.

Re: 'Revenge porn' website former owner Hunter Moore arrested

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Mr Moore is said to have paid Mr Evens to hack into hundreds of victims' email accounts to obtain more nude photos to post on the website. I think this is what they are charging him for - not for hosting genuine UGC.

It is the latest legal setback for Mr Moore, who was ordered in March to pay $250,000 (£170,000) in damages for defamation resulting from a civil lawsuit. I may have misunderstood, but didn't this $250k fine originate largely due to the UGC on the website?

no, it's because he accused the owner of an anti bullying charity of being a paedophile - maybe not a great source but - http://www.dailydot.com/news/hunter-moore-revenge-porn-defam...

Re: 'Revenge porn' website former owner Hunter Moore arrested

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Mr Moore is said to have paid Mr Evens to hack into hundreds of victims' email accounts to obtain more nude photos to post on the website. I think this is what they are charging him for - not for hosting genuine UGC.

It is the latest legal setback for Mr Moore, who was ordered in March to pay $250,000 (£170,000) in damages for defamation resulting from a civil lawsuit. I may have misunderstood, but didn't this $250k fine originate largely due to the UGC on the website?

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Re: 'Revenge porn' website former owner Hunter Moore arrested

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Should it be illegal to operate a website that hosts user-generated content, some of which is illegal, if you take reasonable steps to remove the illegal content when informed of its existence? The answer is pretty clearly "no." But this position becomes more difficult to defend when the entire premise of the website is based on illegal content. Something like e.g. if YouTube was originally named ShareMusicIllegally.…

You need to read the article more closely
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