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Obama's NSA 'reforms' are little more than a PR attempt to mollify the public

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Re: Obama's NSA 'reforms' are little more than a PR attempt to mollify the public

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I don't want to do the usual ranting thing, mostly because of how pathetically sad it all is.

I will say as a disinterested observer (I do not support either major political party in the U.S.) I'm curious to see if any candidates will run on an anti-surveillance state message in the upcoming presidential elections.

We could end up with the same assholes who support all this nonsense going back out and making a bunch more speeches about how bad it all is -- just so they can get elected and continue things as before.

People say cynical voters are a problem, but you watch enough of how politics actually works (and has worked over the centuries) and if you don't become refreshingly cynical you're an empty-headed fool and more of a danger to yourself and others than anything else.

ADD: Ok. Maybe a little ranting.

Re: Obama's NSA 'reforms' are little more than a PR attempt to mollify the public

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post #4

The man who promised to closed Guantanamo Bay... And didn't. They say a country gets the government it deserves, and America deserves Sarah Palin in 2016.

I don't think we got the person we elected in 2008 and 2012 ... what makes you think that Palin would be worse? Have you noticed that after all the "Tea Partyism" during the last election, the Republican party seems to have congealed back into its original form?

I really don't see how we elect change without a third party - yet I think the way elections are run (especially financially) virtually guarantees we'll never get that third party. The only possible solution is to pray for grid-lock.

Yes ... I really am THAT cynical. But I'm older than most of this crowd and my idealism is spent.

Re: Obama's NSA 'reforms' are little more than a PR attempt to mollify the public

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post #4

The man who promised to closed Guantanamo Bay... And didn't. They say a country gets the government it deserves, and America deserves Sarah Palin in 2016.

As someone who voted for Obama twice (once for change and once against Romney) I will be voting from now on for anyone and everyone who would be new to DC. At this point that's the best hope for change that I can see.

Re: Obama's NSA 'reforms' are little more than a PR attempt to mollify the public

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post #4

The man who promised to closed Guantanamo Bay... And didn't. They say a country gets the government it deserves, and America deserves Sarah Palin in 2016.

> The man who promised to closed Guantanamo Bay... And didn't.

Yeah, I mean its not like Congress passed a law specifically prohibiting the actions the President proposed in order to close the detention facility at Guatanamo Bay. [1]

[1] They didn't pass a law, but several, on different occasions.

Re: Obama's NSA 'reforms' are little more than a PR attempt to mollify the public

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post #4

The man who promised to closed Guantanamo Bay... And didn't. They say a country gets the government it deserves, and America deserves Sarah Palin in 2016.

> The man who promised to closed Guantanamo Bay... And didn't. Yeah, I mean its not like Congress passed a law specifically prohibiting the actions the President proposed in order to close the detention facility at Guatanamo Bay. [1] [1] They didn't pass a law, but several, on different occasions.

There's a million ways he could fight that, loudly and publicly.

But why would he, when an army of apologists will rationalize and defend any failure.

Re: Obama's NSA 'reforms' are little more than a PR attempt to mollify the public

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Any comments submitted here may be stored in for-profit corporate databases ran by the likes of Booz Allen Hamilton. Your comments are not data, they are meta-content. No data is collected to be stored in this database, any incidental data that does get stored in the database will be carefully minimized so a worker has to press a key to expose the information.

This data will be pitched to the likes of US Chamber of Commerce[1] via firms like Hunton & Williams[2] as to be used to attack/stifle/undermine political dissidents, journalists like Glenn Greenwald[3], and _THEIR FAMILIES_[4][5]. These comments may be used against you by any nation-state that pays, or entity that leaks information from the database.

All of this foretold in the details (meta-content) of the 2011 anonymous leaks.

[1] http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/02/10/143419/lobbyists...

[2] http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/12/us/politics/12hackers.html...

[3] http://www.salon.com/2011/02/15/palantir/

[4] http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2011/02/10/143428/chamberle...

[5] http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Aaron-Ba...

edit: Oh eat me anonymous down-voter. Anyone that wishes to learn more about the for-profit interests often created by the NSA or their past employees can read Telecomix's BlueCabinet[1] or Barrett Brown's Project PM[2]. Free Barrett Brown.

[1] https://bluecabinet.info/wiki/Blue_cabinet

[2] http://wiki.echelon2.org/wiki/Main_Page

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