The NSA Reportedly Has Total Access To The Apple iPhone

The slide is dated in 2007 - i.e. either iOS 1.0 or some pre-release beta. Who knows what it does now with iOS 7? Also, its unclear what's needed - does one of those other ridiculous govt alphabet soup programs act as a trojan, or does Tom Cruise has to dangle from my ceiling with laser beams to plug in some wingding to do this?

Re: The NSA Reportedly Has Total Access To The Apple iPhone

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Post by electic » Tue, Dec 31, 2013, 4:45 AM UTC

marveller wrote: post #2

Humm... I was going to buy the new iPhone, this changed my mind. Maybe I should just get a feature phone instead.

All the phones are exploited. I doubt it matters.

Re: The NSA Reportedly Has Total Access To The Apple iPhone

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Post by xacaxulu » Tue, Dec 31, 2013, 4:55 AM UTC

My TracFone is safe :-)

Re: The NSA Reportedly Has Total Access To The Apple iPhone

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Post by supergauntlet » Tue, Dec 31, 2013, 4:56 AM UTC

electic wrote: post #5

marveller wrote: post #2

Humm... I was going to buy the new iPhone, this changed my mind. Maybe I should just get a feature phone instead.

All the phones are exploited. I doubt it matters.

Really any phone is exploited. When you've got a baseband with direct hardware access that the carrier can connect to there isn't really anything short of fully open hardware that is gonna save you.

Re: The NSA Reportedly Has Total Access To The Apple iPhone

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Post by auctiontheory » Tue, Dec 31, 2013, 4:56 AM UTC

caycep wrote: post #4

The slide is dated in 2007 - i.e. either iOS 1.0 or some pre-release beta. Who knows what it does now with iOS 7? Also, its unclear what's needed - does one of those other ridiculous govt alphabet soup programs act as a trojan, or does Tom Cruise has to dangle from my ceiling with laser beams to plug in some wingding to do this?

IIRC Tom Cruise didn't have the laser beams - he was avoiding the laser beams. So the responsibility to set up a defense perimeter with laser beams is yours.

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Post by dubcanada » Tue, Dec 31, 2013, 4:56 AM UTC

marveller wrote: post #2

Humm... I was going to buy the new iPhone, this changed my mind. Maybe I should just get a feature phone instead.

And you think others are better? iPhone is probably one of the more "private" ones.

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Post by auctiontheory » Tue, Dec 31, 2013, 5:00 AM UTC

supergauntlet wrote: post #7

electic wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

All the phones are exploited. I doubt it matters.

Really any phone is exploited. When you've got a baseband with direct hardware access that the carrier can connect to there isn't really anything short of fully open hardware that is gonna save you.

If (as claimed) the NSA has hacked the major BIOS/firmware as well as encryption, is there such as thing as "fully open hardware" and would it help?