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Kansas Board of Regents restricts free speech for academics

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Re: Kansas Board of Regents restricts free speech for academics

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Post by msandford »

Considering that it's the Kansas Board of Regents and not say the Kansas Legislature and Governor I'm not sure their right to free speech is being violated. What I mean is that every job comes with restrictions on speech, you shouldn't badmouth the boss, you shouldn't stir up dissent, you can't give away company secrets or violate an NDA you might have executed. None of those are in violation of the First Amendment since they're voluntary measures. These kinds of things have been going on in the corporate world for many years now.

The thing that's unsettling about it is that a paper getting published with fake data by someone at the university would make the university look bad. So they're saying that professors have to deal with those kinds of issues privately which is really unfortunate. Probably means issues like that simply won't be addressed at all and I do think that's a big loss for everyone, not just those scientists who are directly affected.

Re: Kansas Board of Regents restricts free speech for academics

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Post by danso »

> The Kansas Board of Regents just adopted a new social media policy, which allows Kansas state universities to fire (tenured and untenured) employees for “improper use” of social media. “Improper use” includes inciting violence (perhaps justifiable though potentially open to contentious interpretations), posting confidential information about students (fine) or posting things that are “contrary to the best interests of the university”

If the OP's summation is correct, then this is quite a curtailment. Keep in mind that it's not about the "reasonableness" of the rules, it's about the actual implementation and more importantly, the chilling effect. In America, how Supreme Court has made it so that the media has a considerable amount of leeway when it comes to publishing falsehoods. This sounds absurd, but in practice, it has allowed the press to be far more aggressive in its examination of public figures (whether they are best taking advantage of it is another debate)

Consider it this way: your company says engineers are allowed to brainstorm and implement features, unless those features end up causing an "unreasonable" amount of harm to the customers or to the company. Otherwise, just stick to maintaining legacy code and having meetings. What effect do you think that'll have on the engineering culture?

Re: Kansas Board of Regents restricts free speech for academics

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Post by kd0amg »

msandford wrote: post #2

Considering that it's the Kansas Board of Regents and not say the Kansas Legislature and Governor I'm not sure their right to free speech is being violated. What I mean is that every job comes with restrictions on speech, you shouldn't badmouth the boss, you shouldn't stir up dissent, you can't give away company secrets or violate an NDA you might have executed. None of those are in violation of the First Amendment s…

Yeah, I could buy "reneges on tenure" here but not "restricts free speech."

Re: Kansas Board of Regents restricts free speech for academics

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Post by wpietri »

msandford wrote: post #2

Considering that it's the Kansas Board of Regents and not say the Kansas Legislature and Governor I'm not sure their right to free speech is being violated. What I mean is that every job comes with restrictions on speech, you shouldn't badmouth the boss, you shouldn't stir up dissent, you can't give away company secrets or violate an NDA you might have executed. None of those are in violation of the First Amendment s…

I think you're wrong on two counts: one practical, one theoretical.

The practical one is that state schools are arms of the state. Given that their governor sits on the Board of Regents, I'm not sure they're effectively distinguishable in the way you suggest.

The theoretical one is that universities are not like "every job". The whole point of universities is to encourage bold intellectual inquiry. Academic freedom is at the heart of what universities do. Whether or not they can legally get away with trying to treat professors like serfs seems less important to me.

Re: Kansas Board of Regents restricts free speech for academics

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Post by daughart »

msandford wrote: post #2

Considering that it's the Kansas Board of Regents and not say the Kansas Legislature and Governor I'm not sure their right to free speech is being violated. What I mean is that every job comes with restrictions on speech, you shouldn't badmouth the boss, you shouldn't stir up dissent, you can't give away company secrets or violate an NDA you might have executed. None of those are in violation of the First Amendment s…

While not an attack on free speech as a constitutional provision, it is a direct attack on the ability of academics to speak freely. If academics cannot communicate their work without fear of personal or political retribution, then the research itself is fundamentally tainted.

Re: Kansas Board of Regents restricts free speech for academics

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Post by harshreality »

msandford wrote: post #2

Considering that it's the Kansas Board of Regents and not say the Kansas Legislature and Governor I'm not sure their right to free speech is being violated. What I mean is that every job comes with restrictions on speech, you shouldn't badmouth the boss, you shouldn't stir up dissent, you can't give away company secrets or violate an NDA you might have executed. None of those are in violation of the First Amendment s…

The Kansas Board of Regents is established by the legislature, correct? That makes it a public institution, subject to the 1st amendment (through incorporation under the 14th amendment to apply to the states, and applying to a State's board of regents as a proxy of the legislature set up to deal with higher educational matters).
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