Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending Crypto and Cryptology Conferences

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Post by cantrevealname » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 10:58 AM UTC

Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending Crypto and Cryptology Conferences
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Post by cantrevealname » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 11:03 AM UTC

Adi Shamir wrote that the president of his institute says:

"It is clear that scientists have been singled out, since I hear that other ‘simple citizen’, do get their visa in a short time."

Scientists get more scrutiny? What in the world is going on there?

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 11:11 AM UTC

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Post by anon1385 » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 11:26 AM UTC

This was also submitted yesterday but didn't get much interest for some reason: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6560355

Similar recent story: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6499744 'US scientists boycott Nasa conference over China ban'

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Post by raverbashing » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 11:32 AM UTC

Can anyone explain why it involved a J1 visa? I thought a B-1 sufficed for attendance (and even non-compensated presentations)

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Post by Yuioup » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 11:32 AM UTC

Does this have anything to do with the recent shutdown?

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Post by mhlakhani » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 11:34 AM UTC

cantrevealname wrote: post #2

Adi Shamir wrote that the president of his institute says: "It is clear that scientists have been singled out, since I hear that other ‘simple citizen’, do get their visa in a short time." Scientists get more scrutiny? What in the world is going on there?

From the visa guidelines of the embassy where I applied for my visa [1]:

The visa applications of applicants involved in technical or scientific fields may require additional administrative processing. Therefore, applicants who believe they may be affected by this requirement should apply as early as possible.

[1] http://karachi.usconsulate.gov/technology_visas.html

Re: Adi Shamir Prevented from Attending Crypto and Cryptology Conferences

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Post by rb2k_ » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 11:34 AM UTC

It's not that they didn't give him a J1 visa, it's just that they took way too long to process it. It sucks, but I wouldn't attribute to malice what I could attribute to inefficiency :)

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Post by mhlakhani » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 11:35 AM UTC

Yuioup wrote: post #6

Does this have anything to do with the recent shutdown?

It's unlikely, since the link mentions he applied for his visa in early June.

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Post by easytiger » Thu, Oct 17, 2013, 11:35 AM UTC

cantrevealname wrote: post #2

Adi Shamir wrote that the president of his institute says: "It is clear that scientists have been singled out, since I hear that other ‘simple citizen’, do get their visa in a short time." Scientists get more scrutiny? What in the world is going on there?

Ironically one of the easiest visas to get is if you are an artist.