Air France 447: The ‘Coffin Corner’ and a ‘Mesoscale’ Maw
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#2A very insightful examination. A lot of things I didn't know.
Re: Air France 447: The ‘Coffin Corner’ and a ‘Mesoscale’ Maw
#3Insightful but it seems that there's a lot of speculation about this. Theres an article from timesonline that tied some pieces together and answered some questions for me (like: "How do they know this much detail of the flight without the black box?" A: ACARS).
I hope this is helpful to someone else: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/...
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#4The weather was never considered "horrible" and still isn't. [edit:] At least 12 planes took the same route that night without any incident.
http://ibnlive.in.com/news/12-planes-shared-sky-with-af-447-...
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#5Reports seem to indicate that they almost made it through the stormcell.
Very unfortunate. Whatever it was probably happened extremely fast. Perhaps a (ridiculously unlikely) wing snapped off? Or they stalled and spinned violently?
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#6I will always say it was a bomb, and the more they try to make it look like it wasn't, the more I believe they are just trying to hide it from the public not to scare them to fly like in 2001.
It was a bomb.
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#7I will always say it was a bomb, and the more they try to make it look like it wasn't, the more I believe they are just trying to hide it from the public not to scare them to fly like in 2001. It was a bomb.
For a hundred years we've been flying planes thru storms, lightnings, adverse conditions of every kind, so fuck the coffin corner.
The pilot and copilots had thousands of flight hours under their belt.
Not a single mayday call.
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#8I will always say it was a bomb, and the more they try to make it look like it wasn't, the more I believe they are just trying to hide it from the public not to scare them to fly like in 2001. It was a bomb.
Why has no one stepped forward to take credit for downing the plane with a bomb? Isn't that the MO for terrorist organizations?
Accidents happen, unfortunately. Sometimes planes crash. Our technology isn't perfect, and all we can hope for now are useful lessons to be learned from the crash itself.
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#9Reports seem to indicate that they almost made it through the stormcell. Very unfortunate. Whatever it was probably happened extremely fast. Perhaps a (ridiculously unlikely) wing snapped off? Or they stalled and spinned violently?
Boeing tests its wings to breaking by bending them behind the back of the plane until they are pointed up at ridiculous angles. The kind of force that would break the wings of a modern jetliner would also break the necks of a large number of the passengers.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe9PVaFGl3o
EDIT: I stand corrected. As pointed out below, that huge deflection doesn't represent neck-breaking forces. But imagining the force of an updraft that can accelerate an airliner upwards at 2G's -- that's still a heck of a lot of power.
Re: Air France 447: The ‘Coffin Corner’ and a ‘Mesoscale’ Maw
#10I will always say it was a bomb, and the more they try to make it look like it wasn't, the more I believe they are just trying to hide it from the public not to scare them to fly like in 2001. It was a bomb.
Why has no one stepped forward to take credit for downing the plane with a bomb? Isn't that the MO for terrorist organizations? Accidents happen, unfortunately. Sometimes planes crash. Our technology isn't perfect, and all we can hope for now are useful lessons to be learned from the crash itself.
If I was a terrorist org, I wouldn't take credit. The new modus operandi is stealth mode, the days of TV shows about terror are over.
Terror to create havoc on the world economy and air traveling will be the first hit.
Expect more "accidents" in the future.