What Women Don’t Want

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Post by recusancy » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 5:41 PM UTC

Re: What Women Don’t Want

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Post by patrickg_zill » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 6:17 PM UTC

Some guys are there to make money, get stuff done, and get it shipped.

If they think that having a woman means having to slow down and be nice and set out tea cozies, their answer will be to not hire women.

Create problems on a team, you will get bounced from the team ... I have seen it time and time again.

(the link got dead'ed, so I can't respond directly ... however my point is more "results matter" and if you are a purple spotted owl that can code, you will get respect ... nerdy guys with technical competence are what built the Internet, and technical competence is what gets respected)

Re: What Women Don’t Want

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Post by bitops » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 6:19 PM UTC

I posted this earlier and it was flagged off the homepage. It'll happen again here in 3, 2, 1...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6381218

Re: What Women Don’t Want

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Post by yummyfajitas » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 6:19 PM UTC

Ok, I haven't followed this whole thing closely, so if I'm missing some crucial fact please tell me.

What exactly is the problem with Pax Dickinson? He has expressed some political and social opinions that many disagree with. He used coarse language in doing so. And he got fired because his political opinions were incorrect.

Business Insider of course has the right to fire people for having the wrong politics. But I'm a bit surprised by all the people celebrating and supporting this and criticizing Dickinson, and I rather doubt we'd see the same reaction if the opinions he rudely expressed were more in line with the mainstream.

Re: What Women Don’t Want

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Post by Pxtl » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 6:19 PM UTC

And another article about misogyny in the industry falls off the front page just as soon as it appeared. I actually hadn't heard about the Business Insider thing, and that one actually seems worse than the TitStare debacle.

edit: and it's dead. What the heck?

Re: What Women Don’t Want

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Post by akgerber » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 6:23 PM UTC

yummyfajitas wrote: post #4

Ok, I haven't followed this whole thing closely, so if I'm missing some crucial fact please tell me. What exactly is the problem with Pax Dickinson? He has expressed some political and social opinions that many disagree with. He used coarse language in doing so. And he got fired because his political opinions were incorrect. Business Insider of course has the right to fire people for having the wrong politics. But I'…

He got fired because, as an executive manager, he was in a position to make hiring and firing decisions based on those opinions, which is illegal (and thus a liability to his employer) in addition to being immoral.

Re: What Women Don’t Want

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Post by unimpressive » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 6:24 PM UTC

patrickg_zill wrote: post #2

Some guys are there to make money, get stuff done, and get it shipped. If they think that having a woman means having to slow down and be nice and set out tea cozies, their answer will be to not hire women. Create problems on a team, you will get bounced from the team ... I have seen it time and time again. (the link got dead'ed, so I can't respond directly ... however my point is more "results matter" and if you are…

>If they think that (Emphasis mine)

Details people. Unless of course you'd like to tell me why this comment is misogynistic anyway. (Thinly veiled statement of his own opinion perhaps?)

Re: What Women Don’t Want

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Post by mitchty » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 6:24 PM UTC

Pxtl wrote: post #5

And another article about misogyny in the industry falls off the front page just as soon as it appeared. I actually hadn't heard about the Business Insider thing, and that one actually seems worse than the TitStare debacle. edit: and it's dead. What the heck?

My self imposed no news until Friday embargo means I hadn't heard of the titstare debacle either.

Glad to hear this guy got fired, not glad that he still has a job. I voted the article up, but man are geeks a drama laden bunch of apes.

Re: What Women Don’t Want

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Post by Pxtl » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 6:24 PM UTC

yummyfajitas wrote: post #4

Ok, I haven't followed this whole thing closely, so if I'm missing some crucial fact please tell me. What exactly is the problem with Pax Dickinson? He has expressed some political and social opinions that many disagree with. He used coarse language in doing so. And he got fired because his political opinions were incorrect. Business Insider of course has the right to fire people for having the wrong politics. But I'…

"if the opinions he rudely expressed were more in line with the mainstream"

This makes it sound like his opinions were harmless exotic ideas like The Secret or Wycca, or saying that Citizen Kane was a terrible film.

The man posted an incoherent pile of racist and sexist ranting. Racism and sexism are not acceptable professional positions. This man was in a hiring position. There are laws against being racist and sexist when hiring. Laws that exist for good reason.

Re: What Women Don’t Want

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Post by rayiner » Fri, Sep 13, 2013, 6:24 PM UTC

yummyfajitas wrote: post #4

Ok, I haven't followed this whole thing closely, so if I'm missing some crucial fact please tell me. What exactly is the problem with Pax Dickinson? He has expressed some political and social opinions that many disagree with. He used coarse language in doing so. And he got fired because his political opinions were incorrect. Business Insider of course has the right to fire people for having the wrong politics. But I'…

> But I'm a bit surprised by all the people celebrating and supporting this and criticizing Dickinson, and I rather doubt we'd see the same reaction if the opinions he rudely expressed were more in line with the mainstream.

Being outside the mainstream causes people in the mainstream to ostracize you: news at 11.