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#2If you get hit with a pay wall to read this article, just Google "spy_kids_nsa_surveillance_next_generation" and you should get the article as the first result. Then you can read it from there.
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#3If you get hit with a pay wall to read this article, just Google "spy_kids_nsa_surveillance_next_generation" and you should get the article as the first result. Then you can read it from there.
It's a development and expansion of my original argument, expressed here:
http://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2013/08/snowden-...
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#4One can only hope Charlie, one can only hope.
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#5Charlie's argument is that the vast majority of people growing up today will not have sufficient loyalty to "the state" to fill the ranks of the state's spy apparatus.
While I find it persuasive that people's loyalty to institutions may be in decline, that population-wide generalization is not dispositive for the hiring ability of spy agencies.
You don't need an entire generation of loyalists to fill out the NSA. You just need a couple percent, tops.
And those people will always exist, helped along by talk-radio fear mongers who continually generate a stream of xenophobic, america-fuck-yeah types who will happily spy on their countrymen in exchange for that ever-elusive "secure job".
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#6The USA, and by extension the three-letter agencies the implement it's policy has often been viewed as the World's policeman. If that's the case (and here we are about to stick our nose in Syria where it doesn't really belong), then it's time we started acting like real police.
There's a whole bunch of rules for how police are supposed to act, how they determine suspects, how the collect evidence, and so on. It is well past time for the national agencies like the NSA to operate within clear (and public) guidelines similar to that.
Then, if the NSA hires people who are loyal to the rules and the ideals of the work (rather than because of nationality or institutional loyalty), then it can operate effectively, without much fear of leakers like Snowden and Manning.
I have no idea what it would take to reform these big institutions though. And I fear for the damage they (and those who oppose them) will cause before they are replaced by more effective agencies who are based around the old ideals of "Truth, Justice, and the American Way".
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#7Ah yes, "dog eat dog economic liberalism." And then people say Ayn Rand wrote caricatures. Infact, this phrase has been in decline, as it was used to buttress the industrial monopolization of the National Industrial Recovery Act in the New Deal as competition was considered harmful back in the 1930s.
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#8Charlie's argument is that the vast majority of people growing up today will not have sufficient loyalty to "the state" to fill the ranks of the state's spy apparatus. While I find it persuasive that people's loyalty to institutions may be in decline, that population-wide generalization is not dispositive for the hiring ability of spy agencies. You don't need an entire generation of loyalists to fill out the NSA. You…
And those people will always exist, helped along by talk-radio fear mongers who continually generate a stream of xenophobic, america-fuck-yeah types who will happily spy on their countrymen in exchange for that ever-elusive "secure job".
I pity the fool who tries to build an effective agency out of those guys though. It will be a giant waste of money, and produce little of value to anyone. That's not to say that people won't try, however...
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#9Charlie's argument is that the vast majority of people growing up today will not have sufficient loyalty to "the state" to fill the ranks of the state's spy apparatus. While I find it persuasive that people's loyalty to institutions may be in decline, that population-wide generalization is not dispositive for the hiring ability of spy agencies. You don't need an entire generation of loyalists to fill out the NSA. You…
And those people will always exist, helped along by talk-radio fear mongers who continually generate a stream of xenophobic, america-fuck-yeah types who will happily spy on their countrymen in exchange for that ever-elusive "secure job". I pity the fool who tries to build an effective agency out of those guys though. It will be a giant waste of money, and produce little of value to anyone. That's not to say that peop…
You mean the TSA?
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#10if you stop the page loading before it's finished, you can bypass that awful splash screen barrier.