Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
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Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#2See page 28
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#3So - encrypt everything and send the keys trough snail mail? They can't read legally the mail right?
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#4It's like Google is asking their users to leave their service. How about creating a Lavabit-like solution instead, Google, instead of telling users that "if you use our service, you have no expectation of privacy"?
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#5Quote:
"...they nonetheless impliedly consent to Google’s practices by virtue of the fact that all users of email must necessarily expect that their emails will be subject to automated processing.
Just as a sender of a letter to a business colleague cannot be surprised that the recipient’s assistant opens the letter, people who use web-based email today cannot be surprised if their communications are processed by the recipient’s ECS provider in the course of delivery.
Indeed,“a person has no legitimate expectation of privacy in information he voluntarily turns over to third parties.” Smith v. Maryland, 442 U.S. 735, 743-44 (1979)..."
I think this is a good summary.
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#6Should there not be a larger emphasis here on the nature of the service? It's not humans reading the mail, and the gathered data -as far as I know- does not enter the hands of a third party.
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#7It's like Google is asking their users to leave their service. How about creating a Lavabit-like solution instead, Google, instead of telling users that "if you use our service, you have no expectation of privacy"?
I'll take "Because Google's entire business model around email is processing it to serve relevant ads next to it, which requires that they be able to read it" for $1000, Alex.
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#8So - encrypt everything and send the keys trough snail mail? They can't read legally the mail right?
Correct, in many countries there are more laws protecting the privacy of snail mail than laws protecting e-mail
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#9Anyone still using Google services since the NSA revelations is an idiot. I'd like to see them bankrupt after their betrayal of their do-no-evil and open source roots.
Re: Google says e-mail users should have no legitimate expectation of privacy
#10It's like Google is asking their users to leave their service. How about creating a Lavabit-like solution instead, Google, instead of telling users that "if you use our service, you have no expectation of privacy"?
Does lavabit-like services scan the email for spam or full text search? If so, they have the lack of privact Google is talking about