Feds, We Need Some Time Apart

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Post by rosser » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:08 AM UTC

Feds, We Need Some Time Apart
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#2

Post by Selfcommit » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:36 AM UTC

HN effect on the site?

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#3

Post by ianhawes » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:37 AM UTC

My understanding is that the overwhelming majority of Federal employees on official duty from FBI, DHS, DOD, NSA, etc.. that attend DEFCON (and related conferences) are actually not agents at all, but rather low ranking analysts whose job at the conferences are to assess the material presented and report back. This is opposed to, say, recruiting CIs or surveilling targets.

Source: I asked a Fed.

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#4

Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:38 AM UTC

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#5

Post by codezero » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:38 AM UTC

[deleted] wrote: post #4

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It's not just you.

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Post by femto » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:39 AM UTC

Did anyone else look at the defcon21 logo and see a hand giving "the finger"? ("def" are the fingers, 21 is the palm, the top of the d is an extended finger)

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:41 AM UTC

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Post by jonathanwallace » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:41 AM UTC

Try the non-SSL version if you're having trouble accessing the site. http://www.defcon.org/#dc21fedbreak

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Post by dominicgs » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:41 AM UTC

Selfcommit wrote: post #2

HN effect on the site?

There were issues yesterday too: https://twitter.com/_defcon_/status/354873376675868674

Re: Feds, We Need Some Time Apart

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Post by danielsiders » Thu, Jul 11, 2013, 2:42 AM UTC

Entry (since the site is down):

"Feds, we need some time apart. Posted 7.10.13

For over two decades DEF CON has been an open nexus of hacker culture, a place where seasoned pros, hackers, academics, and feds can meet, share ideas and party on neutral territory. Our community operates in the spirit of openness, verified trust, and mutual respect.

When it comes to sharing and socializing with feds, recent revelations have made many in the community uncomfortable about this relationship. Therefore, I think it would be best for everyone involved if the feds call a "time-out" and not attend DEF CON this year.

This will give everybody time to think about how we got here, and what comes next.

The Dark Tangent"