Armchair air crash investigator

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Post by momavujisic » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 3:49 PM UTC

Armchair air crash investigator
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Post by bdirgo » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 5:05 PM UTC

I heard a reporter on TV reporting that the airplane was doing cartwheels on the runway, and I pictured the semi-truck being flipped over in Batman. And then I thought what the hell could have done that? Fishtailed makes more sense, thanks for the clarification.

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Post by austenallred » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 5:23 PM UTC

bdirgo wrote: post #2

I heard a reporter on TV reporting that the airplane was doing cartwheels on the runway, and I pictured the semi-truck being flipped over in Batman. And then I thought what the hell could have done that? Fishtailed makes more sense, thanks for the clarification.

There were a lot of reports like these that were complete assumption based on the fact that one witness said the airplane had flipped over. It actually hadn't.

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Post by Lusake » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 5:42 PM UTC

Here is graphical comparison of safe landing and Asiana crash: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOhIDCWCUAApHFV.jpg:large .

Also it appears that runway was modified: http://metabunk.org/sk/HL7742_777_Crash%2C_Korean_Asiana_Air...

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Post by ronnier » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 5:43 PM UTC

This is an excellent article. Like Air France 447, seems very plausible that pilot error did play some role. This reinforces my respect for the pilot of US Airways Flight 1549, Captain Sullenberger.

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Post by jared314 » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 5:46 PM UTC

Thank you for your armchair analysis, but I will wait for the NTSB's report.

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Post by pcl » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 5:50 PM UTC

Lusake wrote: post #4

Here is graphical comparison of safe landing and Asiana crash: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOhIDCWCUAApHFV.jpg:large . Also it appears that runway was modified: http://metabunk.org/sk/HL7742_777_Crash%2C_Korean_Asiana_Air...

Interesting. I wonder what the Asiana's descent profile looks like compared to the average and some outliers of other safe 777 landings at SFO. Did you generate that image? If not, what was the source?

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Post by Lusake » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 5:55 PM UTC

pcl wrote: post #7

Lusake wrote: post #4

Here is graphical comparison of safe landing and Asiana crash: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BOhIDCWCUAApHFV.jpg:large . Also it appears that runway was modified: http://metabunk.org/sk/HL7742_777_Crash%2C_Korean_Asiana_Air...

Interesting. I wonder what the Asiana's descent profile looks like compared to the average and some outliers of other safe 777 landings at SFO. Did you generate that image? If not, what was the source?

I found picture on twitter, it is generated by FlightAware - live flight tracking (http://www.flightaware.com)

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Post by JshWright » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 5:59 PM UTC

jared314 wrote: post #6

Thank you for your armchair analysis, but I will wait for the NTSB's report.

That seems needlessly snarky in response to some thoughts that are very clearly labeled as speculation.

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Post by JshWright » Sun, Jul 07, 2013, 6:00 PM UTC

austenallred wrote: post #3

bdirgo wrote: post #2

I heard a reporter on TV reporting that the airplane was doing cartwheels on the runway, and I pictured the semi-truck being flipped over in Batman. And then I thought what the hell could have done that? Fishtailed makes more sense, thanks for the clarification.

There were a lot of reports like these that were complete assumption based on the fact that one witness said the airplane had flipped over. It actually hadn't.

Just like the comment that Michael Hastings' car crash 'sounded like a bomb' resulted in all sorts of assumptions that the car exploded.