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Deleted Article by The Guardian
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Re: Deleted Article by The Guardian
#2This is from the Observer (Sunday Paper), not the Guardian as the headline states, though I think they published it on the Guardian website - the two papers have separate editorial teams though they share the same online space. You can see the printed edition of the Observer article reproduced here:
http://guardian.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx
It'd be nice to see some verification of the claims, so I'd be interested to see the article if it is ever republished after checking (I think they took it down as the source - Madsen - is seen as particularly unreliable).
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#3The source, Wayne Madsen, apparently has a history of unsubstantiated claims, including that Obama is secretly a homosexual[1].
[1]: http://www.businessinsider.com/the-guardian-wayne-madsen-nsa...
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#4Can't see much value in posting this. If they deleted it it's probably factually incorrect or inaccurate and will probably return with corrections.
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#6Yes, PRISM is probably an extension of the existing ECHELON program. It's weird that the correlation hasn't been made already. Fun fact, I remember Australia stepping out of ECHELON because they hadn't the capabilities to keep up with US surveillance meaning the spying was essentially one-sided [ref needed].
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/ECHELON/echelo...
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#7It's also worth noting that this was the headline on early morning print editions of The Observer but later editions had it replaced.
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#8The deleted article is almost entirely sourced to Wayne Madsen, who has made disclosures and claims far more shocking than these in the OP:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayne_Madsen
So are these disclosures new? Whether they're a scoop or not doesnt have much to do with their actual validity, but if he's made these claims well before Snowden, then it's likely they've been debated in the past, too.
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#9This seems to be the original story (HT Fefes Blog):
http://www.privacysurgeon.org/blog/incision/former-nsa-contr...
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#10Nicer-formatted version: http://meowc.at/message/204