Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
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#2Original (this is on the front page of Spiegel today):
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/nsa-ueberwacht-50...
This was also posted yesterday (was on yesterday's front page of Spiegel):
http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/nsa-hat-wanzen-in...
Article says that the NSA used bugs to spy on EU offices.
Both articles, the comments of SPON (SPiegel ONline): Germans are pissed (We take privacy serious [1]). They're expecting the EU and chancellor Merkel to do something or she's going to have a really tough time being re-elected in the fall.
Thers is way more comments on this article than many other front page articles. From experience they usually accumulate around 50-100 comments. This article has more than 650 as of now. People are definitely not amused.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Street_View_privacy_conc...
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#3Original (this is on the front page of Spiegel today): http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/nsa-ueberwacht-50... This was also posted yesterday (was on yesterday's front page of Spiegel): http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/nsa-hat-wanzen-in... Article says that the NSA used bugs to spy on EU offices. Both articles, the comments of SPON (SPiegel ONline): Germans are pissed (We take privacy serious [1]).…
Has there been polling as to whether support for German Pirate Party has increased?
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#4Original (this is on the front page of Spiegel today): http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/nsa-ueberwacht-50... This was also posted yesterday (was on yesterday's front page of Spiegel): http://www.spiegel.de/netzwelt/netzpolitik/nsa-hat-wanzen-in... Article says that the NSA used bugs to spy on EU offices. Both articles, the comments of SPON (SPiegel ONline): Germans are pissed (We take privacy serious [1]).…
Has there been polling as to whether support for German Pirate Party has increased?
Probably not because our Pirate Party is only known for drama and the media portrays them as an disorganized bunch of kids who fight over internal power.
Not that the media would be particularly wrong with this. When the party was founded I had some hopes ... now I have given up on them.
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#5"Germany is similarly strong monitored such as China, Iraq or Saudi Arabia"
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#6"Germany is similarly strong monitored such as China, Iraq or Saudi Arabia"
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#7"A confidential classification shows that the NSA considered the Federal Republic does as a partner, but also as an attack target. Thus, Germany is one of the so-called third-class partners. Specifically excluded from espionage attacks are Canada, Australia, Britain and New Zealand, which are performed as a second category. "We can attack the signals of most foreign partner third class - and to do so," it said in a presentation."
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#8Yes it's terrible, but I'm amazed that people are surprised at all this NSA stuff. Look at America's history, it's been a global hegemon since the 1940s. I don't think they're likely to stop any time soon.
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#9"Germany is similarly strong monitored such as China, Iraq or Saudi Arabia"
You could see that from the previously leaked slide, too:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/08/nsa-boundless-in...
Re: Secret Documents: NSA monitored 500 million connections in Germany
#10Yes it's terrible, but I'm amazed that people are surprised at all this NSA stuff. Look at America's history, it's been a global hegemon since the 1940s. I don't think they're likely to stop any time soon.
Maybe not "surprised", but still outraged. Before even if you were outraged about this, there was no one to listen to you, because it would still sound a bit "conspiracy-theory-like".
Plus, I'm not sure if everyone actually thought their e-mail is being collected and could be easily accessed by NSA and others. Maybe they would suspect NSA could do that, but to the bad guys. Not to them. Isn't that what they keep saying in public now? That they only look at the "bad guys' data"? So the outrage, and even surprise to some degree, is very warranted.