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U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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Re: U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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Meanwhile, the petition to pardon him[1] only needs ~8000 more signatures to require a response. [1]: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snow...

The response they've given in the past to pardon petitions isn't much of a response at all. I expect a similar non-answer here.

Cf. https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/why-we-cant-commen... https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/why-we-can’t-comme...

Re: U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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Meanwhile, the petition to pardon him[1] only needs ~8000 more signatures to require a response. [1]: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snow...

For some reason I can't seem to access many of the *.whitehouse.gov subdomains. Is anyone else having this issue?

Re: U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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Meanwhile, the petition to pardon him[1] only needs ~8000 more signatures to require a response. [1]: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snow...

Odd: I looked at the page an it said 7023 signatures required. Refreshed it to see if there was any delta and now it says 7041 signatures required.

So 18 signatures have disappeared?

Re: U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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Interestingly, according to that article, he hasn't been charged with treason, 'just' espionage, theft and conversion of government property. Someone more qualified than I can elaborate, but treason is a much harder crime to prove than espionage (like murder vs. manslaughter).

Edit: According to the video link provided by spdy, the crime needs to exist in both systems (ie Hong Kong and the US) in order for an extradition request to be considered valid.

Treason, with a similar burden of proof, does not exist in Hong Kong, and thus could not be charged.

Is the US attorney's office allowed to rescind the charges of espionage and re-charge him with treason after he's been extradited to the US?

Re: U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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So now is the time to identify the federal prosecutors who filed this and petition the government to have them fired. In addition, of course, to asking for a complete pardon for Snowden.

It also should be noted that any of the Congressional investigations into this mess are perfectly capable of giving Snowden a grant of immunity from prosecution.

People ask what to do. There are at least two avenues open to nip this completely in the bud before prosecutors get rolling, and several other ways of notifying our elected representatives that going down this path is unacceptable.

These are political charges, and as the governed we should stand up to the people who are supposed to be working for us and demand that they be dropped. Immediately.

Re: U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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Meanwhile, the petition to pardon him[1] only needs ~8000 more signatures to require a response. [1]: https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/pardon-edward-snow...

For some reason I can't seem to access many of the *.whitehouse.gov subdomains. Is anyone else having this issue?

Do you have a super picky DNSSEC resolver? What happens when you do a `host petitions.whitehouse.gov`

Re: U.S. charges Edward Snowden with espionage

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So now is the time to identify the federal prosecutors who filed this and petition the government to have them fired. In addition, of course, to asking for a complete pardon for Snowden. It also should be noted that any of the Congressional investigations into this mess are perfectly capable of giving Snowden a grant of immunity from prosecution. People ask what to do. There are at least two avenues open to nip this…

Does anyone else smell "Friday Night News Dump"?
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