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Journalists Detained Attempting to Video NSA Building where Snowden Worked

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Re: Journalists Detained Attempting to Video NSA Building where Snowden Worked

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huh. the centre for advanced study of language (casl) at the university of maryland really isn't on google maps, afaict. http://maps.google.cl/maps?q=centre+for+advanced+study+of+la...

ah, but the wikipedia article links to http://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Center... so i guess it's here https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.97398,-76.92558&q=loc:38.... (is that the sign shown in the article main photo?)

Re: Journalists Detained Attempting to Video NSA Building where Snowden Worked

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Is it really news when someone points cameras at a possibly secret government facility and is then told by government security that they're not allowed to do that? Next article, please.

I'm surprised at the nonchalant dismissal.

Everybody gets in a dizzy when some bill may or may not infringe on the 2nd amendment, but the same response is noticeably absent when it comes to photographers' rights.

Even though photographers are legally allowed to photograph a government building from public property, why the dismissal when the government is in contempt of her own laws?

The steady erosion of personal rights and laissez faire attitude towards government behavior is what lead to the PRISM situation to begin with.

More info:

http://www.aclu.org/free-speech/you-have-every-right-photogr...

Re: Journalists Detained Attempting to Video NSA Building where Snowden Worked

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Is it really news when someone points cameras at a possibly secret government facility and is then told by government security that they're not allowed to do that? Next article, please.

I'm surprised at the nonchalant dismissal. Everybody gets in a dizzy when some bill may or may not infringe on the 2nd amendment, but the same response is noticeably absent when it comes to photographers' rights. Even though photographers are legally allowed to photograph a government building from public property, why the dismissal when the government is in contempt of her own laws? The steady erosion of personal ri…

We shoo away photographers who are mapping out the gates to our military bases as well. The U.S. Embassay bombing in Lebanon is only one of many, many examples of why there is a valid security interest in not having people map out your physical security vulnerabilities if you can avoid it.

Re: Journalists Detained Attempting to Video NSA Building where Snowden Worked

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I'm surprised at the nonchalant dismissal. Everybody gets in a dizzy when some bill may or may not infringe on the 2nd amendment, but the same response is noticeably absent when it comes to photographers' rights. Even though photographers are legally allowed to photograph a government building from public property, why the dismissal when the government is in contempt of her own laws? The steady erosion of personal ri…

We shoo away photographers who are mapping out the gates to our military bases as well. The U.S. Embassay bombing in Lebanon is only one of many, many examples of why there is a valid security interest in not having people map out your physical security vulnerabilities if you can avoid it.

isn't "if you can avoid it" the crux here? there's a trade-off between freedom and protection. and the idea was, i thought, that people decided that together, as a community, and created laws that reflect it.

but what's happening here doesn't follow any law. it's extra protection, and less freedom.

and what's so weird is the way people like you come out of the woodwork as apologists for this process.

when are you going to stop?

the usa already has laws so "protecting" and "un-freedom" that it seems the nsa can assemble huge databases on your communication. if you hadn't noticed, there's a huge fuss about that right now. yet the best you can come up with is to argue that less freedom than the current law provides is a great idea?

it kind of boggles the mind. how little freedom do you actually want?

Re: Journalists Detained Attempting to Video NSA Building where Snowden Worked

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huh. the centre for advanced study of language (casl) at the university of maryland really isn't on google maps, afaict. http://maps.google.cl/maps?q=centre+for+advanced+study+of+la... ah, but the wikipedia article links to http://tools.wmflabs.org/geohack/geohack.php?pagename=Center... so i guess it's here https://maps.google.com/maps?ll=38.97398,-76.92558&q=loc:38.... (is that the sign shown in the article main pho…

What's with the weird arrangement of what appears to be traffic cones in the old parking lot to the east of the building? Plus, why did they build a fence that cuts the east parking lot in half?

Re: Journalists Detained Attempting to Video NSA Building where Snowden Worked

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Contrary to the blog's URL, photography IS a crime ... if it's of certain military installations. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/795

It probably shouldn't be applied in this case( there seems to be little sensitive information in a photograph of a building, though maybe they didn't want personel identified) , but it can be.

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