Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008)
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Re: Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008)
#2politicians lie? nowai
Re: Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008)
#3I remember that.
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#4Re: Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008)
#5Chhi... Compare it with the words and deeds of Abraham Lincoln 250 years ago:
"If slavery isn't wrong, then nothing is wrong." [1][2]
There is a stark change in quality of leaders available today. There is so little correlation between words spoken and execution.
Re: Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008)
#6"My job this morning is to be so persuasive...that a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote for Barack,"
In other words, say whatever needs to be said to get elected. Worry about the details later. Or not.
Re: Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008)
#7Here is the rub, if government does nothing and we get attacked people will complain. If government steps up and works to prevent an attack, people complain.
Where is the balance?
Re: Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008)
#8Even someone on reddit pointed out that these phone taps aren't warrantless wiretaps. First, the FISA court has given a warrant for broad information gathering (whether you agree with it or not). Second, they're only taking metadata. In addition, it seems controversial whether these tactics were targeted to domestic calls at all. Just saying.
Re: Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008)
#9Here is the rub, if government does nothing and we get attacked people will complain. If government steps up and works to prevent an attack, people complain. Where is the balance?
The balance is lost in the clusterfuck that has become our toxic bipartisan Congress and the bloated hyperpluralism that engulfs it.
Re: Obama: No warrantless wiretaps if you elect me (2008)
#10Chhi... Compare it with the words and deeds of Abraham Lincoln 250 years ago: "If slavery isn't wrong, then nothing is wrong." [1][2] There is a stark change in quality of leaders available today. There is so little correlation between words spoken and execution. [1] http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/trt027.html [2] http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/treasures/images/ltoh1.jpg
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