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What's next Google? Dropping SMTP support?

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Re: What's next Google? Dropping SMTP support?

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Everybody knows that SMTP is old, inefficient (hey, it’s nearly plain-text!), insecure, diversified (so many different servers to choose from!) and generally just bad.

Clearly a closed web interface that only runs in Chrome would be much better for everyone! Then people could always be sure with whom they communicate, nobody could hack or social-engineer their way into other accounts, and everyone would have to follow The Rules or they’ll have their account closed for good.

Re: What's next Google? Dropping SMTP support?

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post #3

Don't forget, they tried "open" with Google Wave, which was a total flop. Developers did not buy into it. You can't expect to have it both ways, especially since Apple has proven that a closed infrastructure (walled garden) works.

Openness was not the only thing wrong with Google Wave.

Re: What's next Google? Dropping SMTP support?

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post #3

Don't forget, they tried "open" with Google Wave, which was a total flop. Developers did not buy into it. You can't expect to have it both ways, especially since Apple has proven that a closed infrastructure (walled garden) works.

It might have been the most open platform in the world, but I'm still not sure what Wave was actually for.

Re: What's next Google? Dropping SMTP support?

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post #3

Don't forget, they tried "open" with Google Wave, which was a total flop. Developers did not buy into it. You can't expect to have it both ways, especially since Apple has proven that a closed infrastructure (walled garden) works.

Because every open project that fails means that was the reason why it happened so all will?

Wave had lots of problems one of which was that they gave up on it fairly quickly.

Re: What's next Google? Dropping SMTP support?

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I'm pretty disappointed by the recent dropping of standards that Google has been doing.

I'm quite a sceptical person and I've never been a fan of any big corp, but Google has been the one that I've trusted my data in the most and that I've been happiest with.

I still trust them with some of my data, but I'm rapidly losing faith in them and in fact I'm starting to think that Microsoft are a more "open" company... and I'd consider myself a one-time Microsoft hater, but I think they've turned things around.

The only reason I'm still with them for email/calendars is that they're just so very very good. But they're privacy policies for GDrive scare me, so I don't use that.

Frankly though, I'm starting to think that my data and services would be better off with Microsoft now...

Re: What's next Google? Dropping SMTP support?

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Can someone confirm Google is killing XMPP and its server-to-server federation? The Verge says Hangouts is not using XMPP but does it mean that XMPP (Google Talk) is definitely going away?

Well, the quote from The Verge is the following: "Singhal says Google had to make the difficult decision to drop the very 'open' XMPP standard that it helped pioneer."
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