Why Twitch Needs A Competitor
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Why Twitch Needs A Competitor
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#2While I agree with the sentiment, the current "competitors" that have shown up are either equally twitchy about TOS violations [1], have abysmally poor performance in many areas of the world (again I'm referring to ustream.tv), or are basically scams[2].
They've also been pretty good about talking to people about their TOS violations and reverting bans if necessary [3].
[1] http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/04/tech/web/hugo-awards-gaiman-us... [2] http://www.destiny.gg/n/own3d-tv-a-beginners-guide-to-being-... [3] http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bqum7/just... *
* Random link I found by looking for twitch.tv restoring accounts. I know there have ones where it wasn't twitch.tv's fault including recently a DOTA 2/SC2 caster, I just can't remember where he posted his stuff.
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#3While I agree with the sentiment, the current "competitors" that have shown up are either equally twitchy about TOS violations [1], have abysmally poor performance in many areas of the world (again I'm referring to ustream.tv), or are basically scams[2]. They've also been pretty good about talking to people about their TOS violations and reverting bans if necessary [3]. [1] http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/04/tech/web/hugo…
> have abysmally poor performance in many areas of the world
Twitch in europe still sometimes have horrible performance too. I don't know if this is a peering issue to french ISP or something, but every major tournament I watch I have to use 240p at some point or another because it lags like hell. And everytime you mention it being in their chat or reddit, you get a swarm of users telling you "no it works for me", "it's probably your bandwidth", ...
I was sad when own3d closed because they always had great performance for me, some people said "but they suck in country X" but hey, that's exactly like twitch for me.
Worst part is, I would glady have suscribed to tons of "720p for paying users only" starcraft 2 content if it was working.
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#4Are there any similar services with terms that don't allow arbitrary termination?
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#5This is THE thing that governments should solve.
It should be illegal for companies to refuse service to anyone or offer them worse terms that someone they never did business with.
Even more generally, it should be illegal to ban users from any service, and censor public speech in any way, even on private forums.
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#6I think we should take a step back for a second and remember that before Twitch it was largely impossible to turn video game skills into a paying career. Now many top players are able to finance their lives while still concentrating on their game. There are of course kinks that need to be worked out, but now you at least have one option, before you had zero.
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#7While competition is always good, this piece seems rather one sided, where's Twitch's comments? It sounds like someone got banned from Twitch for doing something wrong.
Some examples I've seen lately:
-twitch streamer pretending to be paralyzed asking for donations and getting his account banned when he was caught walking on his stream.
-twitch user asking his viewers to DDoS someone he thinks is trying to DDoS him.
-various twitch users showing porn on their streams.
All of these users have gotten banned while the one asking for a DDoS got a one month ban.
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#8While I agree with the sentiment, the current "competitors" that have shown up are either equally twitchy about TOS violations [1], have abysmally poor performance in many areas of the world (again I'm referring to ustream.tv), or are basically scams[2]. They've also been pretty good about talking to people about their TOS violations and reverting bans if necessary [3]. [1] http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/04/tech/web/hugo…
> have abysmally poor performance in many areas of the world Twitch in europe still sometimes have horrible performance too. I don't know if this is a peering issue to french ISP or something, but every major tournament I watch I have to use 240p at some point or another because it lags like hell. And everytime you mention it being in their chat or reddit, you get a swarm of users telling you "no it works for me", "i…
Well yeah, I get the whole 240p on twitch (I'm a little bit better - like 480p or something). I'm talking about how when I would be in the US or Korea even the lowest bitrate option refused to play past slideshow speed. It's also the only one my friends in other countries actively complain to me about (since I'm the "computer guy" for them).
And yeah own3d had nice performance but it's understandably simpler to get good performance when you're not paying any of your contracts.
As for your last comment, I've gone back to GOM since their video quality has gotten better over time.
In relation to the article, yes it would be great if either Twitch beefed up their performance and had a clear way to contest ToS violations, but there have been quite a few competitors to Twitch and all of them have given me far more reasons to actively distrust them than to trust them over Twitch. I don't stream video games but if I did I couldn't see myself on any competitor right now.
Maybe Google could try their hand at something like that? They obviously can do live streaming decently well (although Youtube's speed has decreased for me greatly in the last few months).
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#9own3d.tv was a good competitor and they failed to be profitable
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#10While I agree with the sentiment, the current "competitors" that have shown up are either equally twitchy about TOS violations [1], have abysmally poor performance in many areas of the world (again I'm referring to ustream.tv), or are basically scams[2]. They've also been pretty good about talking to people about their TOS violations and reverting bans if necessary [3]. [1] http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/04/tech/web/hugo…
> have abysmally poor performance in many areas of the world Twitch in europe still sometimes have horrible performance too. I don't know if this is a peering issue to french ISP or something, but every major tournament I watch I have to use 240p at some point or another because it lags like hell. And everytime you mention it being in their chat or reddit, you get a swarm of users telling you "no it works for me", "i…
Yeah, this is rough for us. We want perfect global service and don't have it. There are issues in many locales, mostly because of last-mile delivery.
We're doubling EU capacity now, because every time we add capacity we grow until it's all used up. Which is no compensation to you, I realize, but that's what's going on.
(I'm the CEO of Twitch)