Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by jbeynon » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 5:37 PM UTC

Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta
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Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by michaelrkn » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 5:42 PM UTC

woot! here's to hoping we get support for regional redundancy in the US soon.

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by hiddenfeatures » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 5:46 PM UTC

From a legal standpoint: Does this now comply with the EU (German?) data privacy laws? I was told the other day, that using Heroku was a No-No, because you are storing your customer data with a non-EU-compliant company outside the EU. With this, the data resides in the EU. Does this (magically) make my troubles go away?

Remarks: I am totally not a lawyer

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by jbeynon » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 5:48 PM UTC

hiddenfeatures wrote: post #3

From a legal standpoint: Does this now comply with the EU (German?) data privacy laws? I was told the other day, that using Heroku was a No-No, because you are storing your customer data with a non-EU-compliant company outside the EU. With this, the data resides in the EU. Does this (magically) make my troubles go away? Remarks: I am totally not a lawyer

The press releases talk about them not being Safe Harbour yet but it is now much more in progress. Your data may pass through the US still at presently.

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by friism » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 5:49 PM UTC

hiddenfeatures wrote: post #3

From a legal standpoint: Does this now comply with the EU (German?) data privacy laws? I was told the other day, that using Heroku was a No-No, because you are storing your customer data with a non-EU-compliant company outside the EU. With this, the data resides in the EU. Does this (magically) make my troubles go away? Remarks: I am totally not a lawyer

From the "Safe Harbor Compliance is Coming Soon" section:

    Heroku is not yet a registered participant in the Safe
    Harbor program. We’ve laid the groundwork for becoming
    Safe Harbor certified and expect to have it soon. The
    Europe region public beta is designed to let you build
    high-performance apps for European users. It does not
    currently address data residency or jurisdiction concerns. 
    You should assume that some portions of your app and its
    data will be in, or pass through, datacenters located in
    the US.

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by mikehale » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 5:49 PM UTC

hiddenfeatures wrote: post #3

From a legal standpoint: Does this now comply with the EU (German?) data privacy laws? I was told the other day, that using Heroku was a No-No, because you are storing your customer data with a non-EU-compliant company outside the EU. With this, the data resides in the EU. Does this (magically) make my troubles go away? Remarks: I am totally not a lawyer

Heroku is not (yet) safe harbor compliant, but we have plans to be so.

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by [deleted] » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 5:58 PM UTC

hiddenfeatures wrote: post #3

From a legal standpoint: Does this now comply with the EU (German?) data privacy laws? I was told the other day, that using Heroku was a No-No, because you are storing your customer data with a non-EU-compliant company outside the EU. With this, the data resides in the EU. Does this (magically) make my troubles go away? Remarks: I am totally not a lawyer

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Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by pinaceae » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 5:59 PM UTC

Now, could SFDC please do the same - not having a datacenter in EU is so bad. Performance is measurably worse.

And Safe Harbor is nice, but having a DC in EU would make the discussions around it even easier.

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by neilmiddleton » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 6:09 PM UTC

hiddenfeatures wrote: post #3

From a legal standpoint: Does this now comply with the EU (German?) data privacy laws? I was told the other day, that using Heroku was a No-No, because you are storing your customer data with a non-EU-compliant company outside the EU. With this, the data resides in the EU. Does this (magically) make my troubles go away? Remarks: I am totally not a lawyer

(I work @heroku)

Europe region beta is not yet Safe Harbor cert. Working on it. Sign up for updates to stay informed heroku.com/europe

Re: Introducing the Europe Region, Now Available in Public Beta

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Post by rdl » Wed, Apr 24, 2013, 6:11 PM UTC

Wow, this is awesome for both DR reasons and performance reasons. Congratulations Heroku! (Hopefully a second US Region and an Asia Region will follow...)