Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
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Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
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Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
#2I felt the same way when I first read about the acquisition/shutdown. Like the idea.
As a replacement I found http://www.yummly.com/ today.
Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
#3I could see posthaven turning into an API that any site could integrate with so that users knew their data was safe. Depending on the site and type of user data, this type of exportability/backupability could be a real differentiating feature.
Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
#4What exactly is the motivating factor for an acquired website (especially one acquired by a large successful media company) to care about how you feel with their service?
>large amount of work into scraping those sites
I think this states clearly the founders attitude about data rights. It's the Wild West out there still.
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#5I could see posthaven turning into an API that any site could integrate with so that users knew their data was safe. Depending on the site and type of user data, this type of exportability/backupability could be a real differentiating feature.
Any site wanting to position itself as a backbone of the open & safe net ought to itself be open source and have support for data import/export into a self-hosted installation.
Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
#6What exactly is the motivating factor for an acquired website (especially one acquired by a large successful media company) to care about how you feel with their service? >large amount of work into scraping those sites I think this states clearly the founders attitude about data rights. It's the Wild West out there still.
Yeah, "a lot of work went into scraping those sites, so how dare you scrape mine!"
Wat?
Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
#7Startups that are based on user-contributed content are based on fraud in the sense that they imply to their users that the contributed data will always be available. But it's a lie, the user's data is only being used to explore a potential market. If the market idea proves successful the company will be sold and shutdown. If the idea is unsuccessful it will also be shutdown.
Startups should be required to tell users upfront with a big warning that the business is not profitable, how many months of runway the startup has, and that all data could be lost at any point.
Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
#8What exactly is the motivating factor for an acquired website (especially one acquired by a large successful media company) to care about how you feel with their service? >large amount of work into scraping those sites I think this states clearly the founders attitude about data rights. It's the Wild West out there still.
> What exactly is the motivating factor for an acquired website (especially one acquired by a large successful media company) to care about how you feel with their service?
That's precisely the point, isn't it? Right now there's no incentive for them to care. The percentage of users who care about open data right now is pretty small, mostly confined to the very tech-savvy. Maybe this punchfork acquisition kerfuffle can be used to teach non-tech-savvy users the importance of open data. An open, free recipe database - importantly, that follows the punchfork model of not including instructions, so the actual recipe sites still get traffic - is a step in that direction.
Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
#9I could see posthaven turning into an API that any site could integrate with so that users knew their data was safe. Depending on the site and type of user data, this type of exportability/backupability could be a real differentiating feature.
Any site wanting to position itself as a backbone of the open & safe net ought to itself be open source and have support for data import/export into a self-hosted installation.
Agreed. Like Diaspora for data? :)
Re: Punchfork shutdown inspires Open Recipes
#10I hear a lot of grief about companies shutting down. And I get it, if I spent a lot of time on Punchfork or Google Reader I would be bummed out.
However I can still see the good that will come, yummly already jumped at creating an API replacement much like feedly promises to be an alternative for google reader.
By the way, is ending your startup in "ly" the new fad in the technosphere?