Adria Richards: ‘I’m staying safe’
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Adria Richards: ‘I’m staying safe’
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#2>Look, whatever “side” of this you’re one, here’s what happened:
>Some guys made some guy jokes about guy stuff
>A woman got offended and did something that was probably an over-reaction
>Some conference organizers over-reacted
>A company (PlayHaven) over-reacted
>The internet (all of us, but especially Anonymous) over-reacted
>Another company (SendGrid) over-reacted
>I’ve been cursed and pilloried and told to go kill myself by people on both sides of the issue, just for writing about these events. People from both sides see what they want to see and, like trained attack dogs, go in for the kill with little consideration, no mercy, no nuance, no shades of grey. They are so blinded by their self-righteousness that they’re perfectly OK with perpetrating more metaphorical violence in the service of their almighty god-blessed cause.
Amazing how things escalate.
At this rate I half expect to see this end in years of trench warfare and mustard gas.
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#3Reminds me of a short story that has been around the net for at least ten years:
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#4I am reminded of Penny Arcade, oddly enough.
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#5The irrational venom and utter cowardice of those who attacked this woman and her supporters, including here on HN, shouldn't be surprising, but somehow it still is.
Tech? I would have thought better of arguably among the most "rational" humans. Yet another lesson in how close to the surface very primitive emotions lie.
And tech remains a cesspool of mysogyny.
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#7I apologize in advance for nitpicking, but from the article: "It’s been horrible for the PlayHaven developer who lost his job. [...] Who now has to find a new job in tech to support his kids. What’s worse, is that he’s not in Silicon Valley..."
Software engineering exists beyond silicon valley. It's true.
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#8>Look, whatever “side” of this you’re one, here’s what happened: >Some guys made some guy jokes about guy stuff >A woman got offended and did something that was probably an over-reaction >Some conference organizers over-reacted >A company (PlayHaven) over-reacted >The internet (all of us, but especially Anonymous) over-reacted >Another company (SendGrid) over-reacted >I’ve been cursed and pilloried and told to go kil…
Does anyone have clarification on how people think that the conference people overreacted? All that I have heard seems fairly reasonable.
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#9>Look, whatever “side” of this you’re one, here’s what happened: >Some guys made some guy jokes about guy stuff >A woman got offended and did something that was probably an over-reaction >Some conference organizers over-reacted >A company (PlayHaven) over-reacted >The internet (all of us, but especially Anonymous) over-reacted >Another company (SendGrid) over-reacted >I’ve been cursed and pilloried and told to go kil…
The fact that he said anyone over-reacted is not going to help things.
That's not to say I don't think there were overreactions all around: I do. But it's been my experience that people really don't like to hear that they're overreacting, especially while they're in the middle of overreacting. They dislike it so much that entire schools of thought are now dedicated quite strongly to the proposition that there is no such thing as overreaction.
The author of this article may well have singlehandedly touched off another round of overreaction from all parties involved. And the hell of it is, I agree with his point; I just don't think it was a useful point to bring up.
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#10"Anonymous" did not over-react. For their reaction to be an over-reaction, it would have to have a goal other than "lol those idiots took us seriously again". Do people honestly not realize than absurd copypasta like http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/navy-seal-copypasta are not actually death threats? And that treating them seriously is exactly what the people posting them want?