Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
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Re: Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
#2I'd love for there to be some more competition in mobile space, because currently there's just iOS and Android beating it out, and honestly, looking at the stats Android is crushing iOS flat.
It wont be long before we have a complete Android monoculture. And that is bad.
So far RIM's BlackBerry 10 and MS's Windows 8/RT ventures haven't made a single dent in the mobile space and we do need some serious competition to keep all players fit and the market healthy.
While I'll be honest and say I'd rather see something truly free and open like FirefoxOS gain traction, I'll be pragmatic and welcome any sort of competition as good. So I have to welcome Tizen as well on general principle.
All that said... I can't really say I feel very excited about this. I've yet to see a single Tizen device. I've yet to see a single presentation telling my why this is better than what we already have. Why this is something I should get invested in (neither as an OEM, developer nor user).
It's just a name which I associate absolutely nothing with.
If they are really serious about becoming a viable third option, they really need to up their marketing effort as they're not even on the radar of the techies.
And how does that speak well of their future chances of success?
Re: Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
#3This all nice and dandy, but can we install Tizen yet to any actual devices? Or even better, buy Tizen devices?
I mean, what am I going to do with a SDK for a platform that has not a single device even announced yet? Start building apps for something that might have users in what, 2015?
Re: Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
#4I'd love for there to be some more competition in mobile space, because currently there's just iOS and Android beating it out, and honestly, looking at the stats Android is crushing iOS flat. It wont be long before we have a complete Android monoculture. And that is bad. So far RIM's BlackBerry 10 and MS's Windows 8/RT ventures haven't made a single dent in the mobile space and we do need some serious competition to…
I agree with everything you said except the Firefox OS part. For me the biggest issue I have with my iPhone is being locked into the Apple ecosystem. I want browser choice but am forced to use Apple's WebKit. With FF OS, I am locked in Mozilla browser and worse yet no native apps.
With android what I miss from iOS is truely native performance. Even with CM jellybean on my SGS 2 it feels slower than my 4 year old much less power 3Gs. The phone not not as fluid to navigate and I still get occasional hick ups.
I don't know if this comes from surface finger or the dalvic VM but at least Tizen and Ubuntu Mobile stand a chance of giving me iOS like native performance in an open ecosystem.
Re: Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
#5I'd love for there to be some more competition in mobile space, because currently there's just iOS and Android beating it out, and honestly, looking at the stats Android is crushing iOS flat. It wont be long before we have a complete Android monoculture. And that is bad. So far RIM's BlackBerry 10 and MS's Windows 8/RT ventures haven't made a single dent in the mobile space and we do need some serious competition to…
I agree with everything you said except the Firefox OS part. For me the biggest issue I have with my iPhone is being locked into the Apple ecosystem. I want browser choice but am forced to use Apple's WebKit. With FF OS, I am locked in Mozilla browser and worse yet no native apps. With android what I miss from iOS is truely native performance. Even with CM jellybean on my SGS 2 it feels slower than my 4 year old much…
Firefox OS has native apps and of course allows alternate browsers.
Re: Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
#6I don't get all the development... so is this like an html5 player ? linux + some webkit ? what's the novelty ?
Again a bunch of developers working for free on Samsung (20% of SK GDP) plan C mobile phone OS ?
Re: Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
#7I'd love for there to be some more competition in mobile space, because currently there's just iOS and Android beating it out, and honestly, looking at the stats Android is crushing iOS flat. It wont be long before we have a complete Android monoculture. And that is bad. So far RIM's BlackBerry 10 and MS's Windows 8/RT ventures haven't made a single dent in the mobile space and we do need some serious competition to…
>and honestly, looking at the stats Android is crushing iOS flat.
As an Android user, I think you've misanalyzed the stats:
- Despite being a far smaller population, iOS users represent a majority of mobile internet users
- Despite being a far smaller population, iOS users represent a majority of mobile spending on apps
I don't know what Android you're using, but my Android still has over half of it's entire install base (IE, more than all iPhone's out there) using Android 2.x or less and will never be updated.
Keeping (hundreds of) millions of devices stuck on old operating systems is not "winning" anything except install base numbers.
As an Android user-- where's Mailbox? Where's Vine? Where's any of the cool new apps that iOS users got months ago? (Heck, I have a Note II -- where's Android 4.2? How long do I have to wait to get a normal update! How long do I have to wait to even get an announcement that the update is coming?)
Android isn't "winning" anything outright except for the budget smartphone market. I'd love if it did win -- I want the good apps first!
Re: Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
#8I'd love for there to be some more competition in mobile space, because currently there's just iOS and Android beating it out, and honestly, looking at the stats Android is crushing iOS flat. It wont be long before we have a complete Android monoculture. And that is bad. So far RIM's BlackBerry 10 and MS's Windows 8/RT ventures haven't made a single dent in the mobile space and we do need some serious competition to…
> and honestly, looking at the stats Android is crushing iOS flat. As an Android user, I think you've misanalyzed the stats: - Despite being a far smaller population, iOS users represent a majority of mobile internet users - Despite being a far smaller population, iOS users represent a majority of mobile spending on apps I don't know what Android you're using, but my Android still has over half of it's entire install…
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Re: Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
#9I'd love for there to be some more competition in mobile space, because currently there's just iOS and Android beating it out, and honestly, looking at the stats Android is crushing iOS flat. It wont be long before we have a complete Android monoculture. And that is bad. So far RIM's BlackBerry 10 and MS's Windows 8/RT ventures haven't made a single dent in the mobile space and we do need some serious competition to…
I also think Tizen has zero chance of making it big. Yes, Samsung is a big company, but it's also just one company, and no other company has succeeded with a modern OS, even if it was supported by multiple companies, let alone by just one company, after iOS and Android came out. Ubuntu and Firefox OS probably still have a much bigger chance of gaining more market share than Tizen in the long term. But even those 2 together might never get more than 10%, together. I'd be happy, but surprised, to see one get at least 10% market share. Even iOS has only about 20% globally I think.
Re: Tizen 2.0 Magnolia SDK and Source Code Release
#10I don't get all the development... so is this like an html5 player ? linux + some webkit ? what's the novelty ? Again a bunch of developers working for free on Samsung (20% of SK GDP) plan C mobile phone OS ?
Yes, to both questions.