Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
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Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
#2Wait wait, so this chick finds something that she thinks is inappropriate, takes a picture of the "offenders," and puts it on Twitter? Even if the comment in question was derogatory towards women in the first place (it wasn't, unless sex and big dicks are automagically offensive to women), how are people OK with that?
BTW, this quote is gold:
> As an advocate for digital equality, my actions today at #pycon made me feel like Joan of Arc, minus the visions
Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
#3Wait wait, so this chick finds something that she thinks is inappropriate, takes a picture of the "offenders," and puts it on Twitter? Even if the comment in question was derogatory towards women in the first place (it wasn't, unless sex and big dicks are automagically offensive to women), how are people OK with that? BTW, this quote is gold: > As an advocate for digital equality, my actions today at #pycon made me f…
I think this is becoming a much harder area for guys to navigate, in the sense that, are all sexual jokes off the table if females are present? I don't know the answer, hopefully there will be more dialogue around this so that everyone can understand general etiquette rules when in such an environment. I believe that some guys can just be dicks but some might just not be aware that they are being offensive.
Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
#4This was a private conversation between two individuals. This reeks of a witch hunt to me.
Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
#5Wait wait, so this chick finds something that she thinks is inappropriate, takes a picture of the "offenders," and puts it on Twitter? Even if the comment in question was derogatory towards women in the first place (it wasn't, unless sex and big dicks are automagically offensive to women), how are people OK with that? BTW, this quote is gold: > As an advocate for digital equality, my actions today at #pycon made me f…
I think this is becoming a much harder area for guys to navigate, in the sense that, are all sexual jokes off the table if females are present? I don't know the answer, hopefully there will be more dialogue around this so that everyone can understand general etiquette rules when in such an environment. I believe that some guys can just be dicks but some might just not be aware that they are being offensive.
> are all sexual jokes off the table if females are present?
Honestly, I wish they were off the table regardless of who is in attendance. They're rarely funny, and they add nothing to the conversation.
Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
#6Wait wait, so this chick finds something that she thinks is inappropriate, takes a picture of the "offenders," and puts it on Twitter? Even if the comment in question was derogatory towards women in the first place (it wasn't, unless sex and big dicks are automagically offensive to women), how are people OK with that? BTW, this quote is gold: > As an advocate for digital equality, my actions today at #pycon made me f…
I think this is becoming a much harder area for guys to navigate, in the sense that, are all sexual jokes off the table if females are present? I don't know the answer, hopefully there will be more dialogue around this so that everyone can understand general etiquette rules when in such an environment. I believe that some guys can just be dicks but some might just not be aware that they are being offensive.
Sexual jokes during presentations are tacky no matter who is in attendance.
Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is becoming a much harder area for guys to navigate, in the sense that, are all sexual jokes off the table if females are present? I don't know the answer, hopefully there will be more dialogue around this so that everyone can understand general etiquette rules when in such an environment. I believe that some guys can just be dicks but some might just not be aware that they are being offensive.
Sexual jokes during presentations are tacky no matter who is in attendance.
But does your thinking the jokes between two friends are tacky warrant their private info (photos) being posted online?
Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think this is becoming a much harder area for guys to navigate, in the sense that, are all sexual jokes off the table if females are present? I don't know the answer, hopefully there will be more dialogue around this so that everyone can understand general etiquette rules when in such an environment. I believe that some guys can just be dicks but some might just not be aware that they are being offensive.
> are all sexual jokes off the table if females are present? Honestly, I wish they were off the table regardless of who is in attendance. They're rarely funny, and they add nothing to the conversation.
> I wish
There it is. Certainly doesn't warrant people having their privacy violated.
Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
#9Wait wait, so this chick finds something that she thinks is inappropriate, takes a picture of the "offenders," and puts it on Twitter? Even if the comment in question was derogatory towards women in the first place (it wasn't, unless sex and big dicks are automagically offensive to women), how are people OK with that? BTW, this quote is gold: > As an advocate for digital equality, my actions today at #pycon made me f…
private conversations are private.
If she was feeling that they were being inappropriate, there are other ways to handle it. I'm not a fan of naming and shaming without trying to handle it privately first.
Such as me saying I find the use of "chick" in that way to be unnecessarily derogative, but she really was out of line in my opinion.
Re: Inappropriate comments at pycon 2013 called out
#10Its a tough call, but I will say that it is not clear who the bully is in this situation.
If the comments were made directly at someone, I am sure all will agree that this is grounds for consequences.
However is it really a "safe space" if people are shamed publicly for what someone finds offensive BEFORE the matter is brought up to STAFF? I mean the two dudes in the photo may have grounds to say that they are the ones being harassed.