Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by hotice » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 6:42 PM UTC

Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal
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Re: Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by themstheones » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 7:10 PM UTC

No one has ever tried this with an OS before.

Re: Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by zalew » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 7:20 PM UTC

considering the tipping point of me leaving buntu was being tired of the upbreak release process, I second this idea.

they are basically adopting the debian scheme, only the stable releases will be more frequent.

Re: Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by schabernakk » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 7:21 PM UTC

themstheones wrote: post #2

No one has ever tried this with an OS before.

What do you mean? Arch and Gentoo are two pretty successful distributions and both use a rolling release approach.

Re: Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by wcchandler » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 7:23 PM UTC

schabernakk wrote: post #4

themstheones wrote: post #2

No one has ever tried this with an OS before.

What do you mean? Arch and Gentoo are two pretty successful distributions and both use a rolling release approach.

Sarcasm doesn't translate very well over the Internet.

Re: Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by autarch » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 7:23 PM UTC

themstheones wrote: post #2

No one has ever tried this with an OS before.

Debian testing and unstable.

Re: Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by andyl » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 7:24 PM UTC

This seems like a reasonable proposal to me. I've starting using the LTS releases exclusively for my desktop and server systems. I'm planning to use the Ubuntu phone heavily, and would love that device to be on a rolling-release schedule.

Re: Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by olenhad » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 7:26 PM UTC

Yes Please! I'm sick of PPA-ing for updated packages.

Re: Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by mattlong » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 7:32 PM UTC

I wonder how much this proposal is driven by Ubuntu's push into the mobile space versus improving the Ubuntu project at large. Clearly it's possible rolling releases would aid both.

I guess what I'm really asking is what are the possible negative implications of the plan for the more "traditional" Ubuntu users? Many of whom are likely sysadmins trying to maintain consistent package versions across their infrastructure. Sticking to the LTS versions is the first step. But then you would be delaying access to newer package versions without the interim releases.

Re: Ubuntu Rolling Release Proposal

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Post by mhw » Thu, Feb 28, 2013, 7:47 PM UTC

I think that's a very well reasoned proposal and I'd be very happy to see it implemented. I might be unusual, but I find myself in both of the user groups that the proposal identifies. For my 'utility' machines (home server, XBMC host, web servers) I prefer the stability of the LTS series, but for my laptop I'm happy to trade that stability for getting new stuff sooner, particularly new usability features that are getting baked into Unity and other components.

One minor nit: in the section on benefits for Core/MOTU developers it suggests that only 2 releases would need to be supported. I think in reality that would actually be 4 releases, as with a 5 year support commitment for each LTS release there could be up to 3 LTS releases that are still being supported at any point in time. May be just a minor wording thing though - I'm sure the author knows what he's talking about.