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Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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Re: Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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Nice, but does it have the cojones to keep up with Microsoft and Sony?

Doubtful. I think this will be a niche console for geeks, because of one reason: Content.

It's a vicious cycle. With no content, customers won't want it, and with no customers, content creators won't create any games or apps for it.

Still, it looks very promising, I'm just unsure if developers will get content onto this thing.

Re: Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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post #2

Nice, but does it have the cojones to keep up with Microsoft and Sony? Doubtful. I think this will be a niche console for geeks, because of one reason: Content. It's a vicious cycle. With no content, customers won't want it, and with no customers, content creators won't create any games or apps for it. Still, it looks very promising, I'm just unsure if developers will get content onto this thing.

Your comment kinda has the answer in it: it's a niche. It doesn't have to fight with the likings of M$, Sony or Nintendo. If the they manage to find a "blue ocean", somewhere between the big boys, they are all set. There should be tons of not so casual players out there, that enjoy creative and witty games, e.g. most of these Indie games with a wow-factor.

Re: Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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post #2

Nice, but does it have the cojones to keep up with Microsoft and Sony? Doubtful. I think this will be a niche console for geeks, because of one reason: Content. It's a vicious cycle. With no content, customers won't want it, and with no customers, content creators won't create any games or apps for it. Still, it looks very promising, I'm just unsure if developers will get content onto this thing.

One obvious way to help jump start this process is making it easy to bring games over from android phones. These won't be nice HD games but they may spark some interest. Also it may appeal to those who buy playstations and xboxes primarily as media centers but also want to do some light gaming.

I'm rooting for it but you're right about the main challenges. Let's hope they can solve them.

Re: Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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post #2

Nice, but does it have the cojones to keep up with Microsoft and Sony? Doubtful. I think this will be a niche console for geeks, because of one reason: Content. It's a vicious cycle. With no content, customers won't want it, and with no customers, content creators won't create any games or apps for it. Still, it looks very promising, I'm just unsure if developers will get content onto this thing.

One game: Minecraft.

Its already on Android. The port would not be hard to do (if any).

This platform will grow like crazy, because the tools are open source, and Android is a very strong brand.

Re: Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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post #2

Nice, but does it have the cojones to keep up with Microsoft and Sony? Doubtful. I think this will be a niche console for geeks, because of one reason: Content. It's a vicious cycle. With no content, customers won't want it, and with no customers, content creators won't create any games or apps for it. Still, it looks very promising, I'm just unsure if developers will get content onto this thing.

On the other hand, developing for this is a lot cheaper than the PS3 and 360. Much of its software is going to be ports of Android phone games, so developer adoption isn't the huge hurdle that it's been on other new ecosystems.

The mobile appstores are so saturated that it's impossible to get noticed, at least at the start that will make Ouya attractive to developers even if it has a smaller customer base.

Re: Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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post #2

Nice, but does it have the cojones to keep up with Microsoft and Sony? Doubtful. I think this will be a niche console for geeks, because of one reason: Content. It's a vicious cycle. With no content, customers won't want it, and with no customers, content creators won't create any games or apps for it. Still, it looks very promising, I'm just unsure if developers will get content onto this thing.

One game: Minecraft . Its already on Android. The port would not be hard to do (if any). This platform will grow like crazy, because the tools are open source, and Android is a very strong brand.

Notch: "See, the problem with Minecraft for the Ouya is that it's android, and our android version of Minecraft isn't exactly that super great."

They've been working on it, but it still doesn't compare well to the PC version, or even the Xbox release. People are willing to accept a bit of a gimped version of their phone, because it's running on their phone. On a console (even one that costs less than a phone did) I think they'll have some trouble overcoming that.

It could happen, but a proper version of Minecraft for Ouya would take some effort. If they get enough adoption for Mojang to bother, that could be the tipping point that pushes it to popularity.

https://twitter.com/notch/status/223475074425036800

Re: Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

One game: Minecraft . Its already on Android. The port would not be hard to do (if any). This platform will grow like crazy, because the tools are open source, and Android is a very strong brand.

Notch: "See, the problem with Minecraft for the Ouya is that it's android, and our android version of Minecraft isn't exactly that super great." They've been working on it, but it still doesn't compare well to the PC version, or even the Xbox release. People are willing to accept a bit of a gimped version of their phone, because it's running on their phone. On a console (even one that costs less than a phone did) I t…

Not to mention that the Xbox 360 already has a very good and popular port of Minecraft.

Re: Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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post #2

Nice, but does it have the cojones to keep up with Microsoft and Sony? Doubtful. I think this will be a niche console for geeks, because of one reason: Content. It's a vicious cycle. With no content, customers won't want it, and with no customers, content creators won't create any games or apps for it. Still, it looks very promising, I'm just unsure if developers will get content onto this thing.

On the other hand, developing for this is a lot cheaper than the PS3 and 360. Much of its software is going to be ports of Android phone games, so developer adoption isn't the huge hurdle that it's been on other new ecosystems. The mobile appstores are so saturated that it's impossible to get noticed, at least at the start that will make Ouya attractive to developers even if it has a smaller customer base.

But most of the Android games are optimized for mobile and touch. It's like having a 400K sportscar with a 55mph speed limiter. The capability is there, but then there's nothing that really takes advantage of it. What value would developers find in porting their games to the Ouya? Not much, I suppose, unless there's a saturated market. Companies like Rovio and the guys who made Temple Run can afford it, but the small-time devs like Andreas Illiger may not see much of a market with the Ouya.

Don't get me wrong, I would buy one of these anyway, but I just hope to see some developers hop onto it, which seems unlikely at this point.

Re: Ouya Android console up for pre-order on Amazon

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post #4
post #2

Nice, but does it have the cojones to keep up with Microsoft and Sony? Doubtful. I think this will be a niche console for geeks, because of one reason: Content. It's a vicious cycle. With no content, customers won't want it, and with no customers, content creators won't create any games or apps for it. Still, it looks very promising, I'm just unsure if developers will get content onto this thing.

One obvious way to help jump start this process is making it easy to bring games over from android phones. These won't be nice HD games but they may spark some interest. Also it may appeal to those who buy playstations and xboxes primarily as media centers but also want to do some light gaming. I'm rooting for it but you're right about the main challenges. Let's hope they can solve them.

Most games should be fine in 720p on Tegra 3. Still wish they used a more powerful chip for a mid-2013 public launch, though. But maybe they can catch-up for version 2.
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