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Antigua could hit U.S. with copyright-free downloads

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Re: Antigua could hit U.S. with copyright-free downloads

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This is a really interesting idea. Every file sharing site in the world setting up their servers in Antigua could potentially be a huge boost to their economy.

However, I bet the US will come to some resolution with them at the minute to prevent this from happening. This article is probably more of a bargaining chip than an actual plan.

Re: Antigua could hit U.S. with copyright-free downloads

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I don't see how this would actually work. If you set up a pirate website in Antigua, congratulations, good luck competing with the million other ones that already exist. How does it hurt the U.S. in any significant way to go from a million to a million and one?

On top of that, it's not like the U.S. is going to sit around and allow it. Expect payment processors to be pressured not to process payments for the service, goods like t-shirts to be seized at the border if you actually try to export them into the U.S. or U.S. friendly nations, etc. They're already ignoring the WTO for the questionable purpose of prohibiting online gambling, you don't think they would do it for this too?

In other words, now you can set up a pirate website in Antigua... under pretty much the same conditions as you can anywhere else.

Re: Antigua could hit U.S. with copyright-free downloads

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I don't see how this would actually work. If you set up a pirate website in Antigua, congratulations, good luck competing with the million other ones that already exist. How does it hurt the U.S. in any significant way to go from a million to a million and one? On top of that, it's not like the U.S. is going to sit around and allow it. Expect payment processors to be pressured not to process payments for the service,…

So if they setup a service to, let's say stream new movies, the US would have a hard time blocking a website. As for payment processors, why not bitcoin?

Re: Antigua could hit U.S. with copyright-free downloads

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post #4

I don't see how this would actually work. If you set up a pirate website in Antigua, congratulations, good luck competing with the million other ones that already exist. How does it hurt the U.S. in any significant way to go from a million to a million and one? On top of that, it's not like the U.S. is going to sit around and allow it. Expect payment processors to be pressured not to process payments for the service,…

So if they setup a service to, let's say stream new movies, the US would have a hard time blocking a website. As for payment processors, why not bitcoin?

1) Movie streaming service is going to fall over in two seconds if you can't do regional caching of popular data.

2) Service is not going to be able to easily attract users if they only accept bitcoin.

3) Why would someone pay money to pirate movies when they can just do it for free?

Re: Antigua could hit U.S. with copyright-free downloads

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I don't see how this would actually work. If you set up a pirate website in Antigua, congratulations, good luck competing with the million other ones that already exist. How does it hurt the U.S. in any significant way to go from a million to a million and one? On top of that, it's not like the U.S. is going to sit around and allow it. Expect payment processors to be pressured not to process payments for the service,…

The difference is that it's not a pirate website. It's WTO sanctioned, thus a legal offer. This would make things harder to shut down, since it's hard to argue that it should be shut down because it's a pirate site.

Re: Antigua could hit U.S. with copyright-free downloads

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So if they setup a service to, let's say stream new movies, the US would have a hard time blocking a website. As for payment processors, why not bitcoin?

1) Movie streaming service is going to fall over in two seconds if you can't do regional caching of popular data. 2) Service is not going to be able to easily attract users if they only accept bitcoin. 3) Why would someone pay money to pirate movies when they can just do it for free?

You are not pirating movies, see. This would be a legal site where you are paying a lot less...

Re: Antigua could hit U.S. with copyright-free downloads

#9

I don't see how this would actually work. If you set up a pirate website in Antigua, congratulations, good luck competing with the million other ones that already exist. How does it hurt the U.S. in any significant way to go from a million to a million and one? On top of that, it's not like the U.S. is going to sit around and allow it. Expect payment processors to be pressured not to process payments for the service,…

AllOfMP3 was quite popular in its time because it was "legal" even though it didn't pay copyright holders.

Re: Antigua could hit U.S. with copyright-free downloads

#10
It's interesting to see Antigua's reaction to America ignoring the WTO. I think America is on shaky ground here, as many countries are getting sick of America overstepping their boundaries.

In theory, every country aligned with the WTO should back Antigua on this. In reality, America will threaten trade sanctions against them too, so it will be a question of who has big enough balls to stand up to the world's bully. Let's hope we can get a critical mass going.

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