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Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I would argue that while this certainly sucks for the US in the short term, it's awesome for the world in the long term. This is exactly what globalization is good for -- expose talented people from all over the world to the free market, get them to our level of expertise, and then have them go back home and start the arduous process of improving local standards of living.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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"Returnees said they were generally making less money in absolute terms, but they also said they enjoyed a higher quality of life."

That is exactly my case.

The only thing I miss about living in the U.S. is the opportunity to work for the very smart companies. (e.g Google, Amazon, etc.) But in any case if you are successful in your start up, you can create the smart company atmosphere yourself.

The barriers to migrate to the U.S. are absurd. I know people that have been waiting for ten years.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I would argue that while this certainly sucks for the US in the short term, it's awesome for the world in the long term. This is exactly what globalization is good for -- expose talented people from all over the world to the free market, get them to our level of expertise, and then have them go back home and start the arduous process of improving local standards of living.

Good point. Looking at the other side of the coin. This may be an opportunity for many countries. I hope they realize it.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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Well, If skilled immigrants are leaving U.S., and consider that there are many skilled workers that are not in U.S., then maybe it's the time to make a virtual Silicon Valley on the internet?

So regardless where you are, you can enter "the virtual" Silicon Valley, and you won't have to apply for a visa!

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I hate to say it but, the ones with options are the good ones. The US is likely still the more attractive for those who come by the shovel-full.

Also, this was surprising:

> Chinese complained of pollution, reverse culture shock, /inferior education/ for children, frustration with government bureaucracy, and the quality of health care.

That Chinese elementary education is worse than the US' would come as a surprise to most people I'm sure.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I hate to say it but, the ones with options are the good ones. The US is likely still the more attractive for those who come by the shovel-full. Also, this was surprising: > Chinese complained of pollution, reverse culture shock, /inferior education/ for children, frustration with government bureaucracy, and the quality of health care. That Chinese elementary education is worse than the US' would come as a surprise t…

I wonder how much of that is due to difference rather than genuine inferiority. My understanding is that the learning style in the US and China is very different. Disclaimer: I've never visited China and I've spent a grand total of 3 days in the US. This may limit my ability to comment.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I hate to say it but, the ones with options are the good ones. The US is likely still the more attractive for those who come by the shovel-full. Also, this was surprising: > Chinese complained of pollution, reverse culture shock, /inferior education/ for children, frustration with government bureaucracy, and the quality of health care. That Chinese elementary education is worse than the US' would come as a surprise t…

Educated Chinese Americans send their kids to private and very good (i.e. high property tax areas) public schools.

Something nobody ever mentions is that there is a huge rich/poor divide in public education quality, it's not universally terrible. The best public schools are just as good as private schools, and this is represented at elite universities.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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I hate to say it but, the ones with options are the good ones. The US is likely still the more attractive for those who come by the shovel-full. Also, this was surprising: > Chinese complained of pollution, reverse culture shock, /inferior education/ for children, frustration with government bureaucracy, and the quality of health care. That Chinese elementary education is worse than the US' would come as a surprise t…

The Chinese education system has a ridiculous variance when it comes to quality. In rural areas "education" is often close to non-existent, and even in cities parents constantly push their kids towards private schools (even at the elementary level), since the state ones are often of questionable quality as well.

As for the people with options - the US would do well for itself to retain the ones with options. These are the people your economy needs to most; you can do without a lot of the ones without options.

Re: Why Skilled Immigrants Are Leaving the U.S

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Well, If skilled immigrants are leaving U.S., and consider that there are many skilled workers that are not in U.S., then maybe it's the time to make a virtual Silicon Valley on the internet? So regardless where you are, you can enter "the virtual" Silicon Valley, and you won't have to apply for a visa!

> virtual Silicon Valley on the internet?

Yeah, that's called the Internet.

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