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Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that

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Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that

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I hate linkbait headlines like this because DUNS is not a scam:

It's a useful tool used in the real world of business. Need to see how long a company typically takes to pay? You use DUNS. Want to get and Federal work? You have to have a DUNS before you can register (in addition to your IRS paperwork).

Of course I get the idea that if you're a lone coder how that can be a pain. I also get that if you aren't in the US that it might not make any sense. However that's no reason to call it a scam.

Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that

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I hate linkbait headlines like this because DUNS is not a scam: It's a useful tool used in the real world of business. Need to see how long a company typically takes to pay? You use DUNS. Want to get and Federal work? You have to have a DUNS before you can register (in addition to your IRS paperwork). Of course I get the idea that if you're a lone coder how that can be a pain. I also get that if you aren't in the US…

still, taking 30+ days to register is insane, its clear they are some kind of monopoly and need more competitors

Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that

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I hate linkbait headlines like this because DUNS is not a scam: It's a useful tool used in the real world of business. Need to see how long a company typically takes to pay? You use DUNS. Want to get and Federal work? You have to have a DUNS before you can register (in addition to your IRS paperwork). Of course I get the idea that if you're a lone coder how that can be a pain. I also get that if you aren't in the US…

It's not a scam but they do call and pressure you to buy their costly advanced listing. I once got into a surprising argument with a phone rep as he practically refused to take no for an answer. I had only registered to bid on govt contracts. Left a very bad taste in my mouth for their services.

Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that

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For India, they don't even have any option of getting it free. You have to pay a minimum 7500 Rs (~ $ 150) + taxes. Though after payment they gave it in 4 days.

This is a sear monopolistic policy, why should I pay fucking 150$ to any agency for just getting a DUNS number. On top of that, there is this annoying wait period and delays.

Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that

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I hate linkbait headlines like this because DUNS is not a scam: It's a useful tool used in the real world of business. Need to see how long a company typically takes to pay? You use DUNS. Want to get and Federal work? You have to have a DUNS before you can register (in addition to your IRS paperwork). Of course I get the idea that if you're a lone coder how that can be a pain. I also get that if you aren't in the US…

D&B makes money selling their rating information, but while a DUNS number is free, you have to pay to manage your rating. I can't recall the exact wording but the salesman's phone pitch bordered on "Nice little business you got there. It'd be a shame if anything happened to your DUNS rating."

These two links share similar experiences:

http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz.5.505486.1...

http://www.cartoonbarry.com/2010/06/dun_bradstreet_seems_sca...

Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that

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I hate linkbait headlines like this because DUNS is not a scam: It's a useful tool used in the real world of business. Need to see how long a company typically takes to pay? You use DUNS. Want to get and Federal work? You have to have a DUNS before you can register (in addition to your IRS paperwork). Of course I get the idea that if you're a lone coder how that can be a pain. I also get that if you aren't in the US…

Scam might be too harsh a word, but it is more than just a pain.

They have a pattern of shady business practices, including bullying customers into paying more for a service that they have a federally-granted monopoly on. They are abusing their position as a DUNS provider to make profit off of uninformed small businesses. That's what earns them the title of a scam. DUNS may very well be a useful service, but if it's managed by a scamming company, then the usefulness of the service erodes.

Re: Dear Apple, DUNS is a scam, but you already know that

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post #8

I hate linkbait headlines like this because DUNS is not a scam: It's a useful tool used in the real world of business. Need to see how long a company typically takes to pay? You use DUNS. Want to get and Federal work? You have to have a DUNS before you can register (in addition to your IRS paperwork). Of course I get the idea that if you're a lone coder how that can be a pain. I also get that if you aren't in the US…

D&B makes money selling their rating information, but while a DUNS number is free, you have to pay to manage your rating. I can't recall the exact wording but the salesman's phone pitch bordered on "Nice little business you got there. It'd be a shame if anything happened to your DUNS rating." These two links share similar experiences: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?biz.5.505486.1... http://www.cartoonb…

You might as well be dealing with the Mob.
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