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Show HN: Sunk Cost – How long until a local LLM rig pays for itself?

#1
I kept hearing "just buy a Mac and run models locally, it pays for itself" and wanted to check. Sunk Cost takes a machine, a model and how many tokens you use a day, and works out how long the hardware takes to pay back against renting the same model by the token.

Obviously there are other reasons to buy your own hardware aside from just saving money on llms but this is just looking at it from a raw cost saving perspective.

If you have any ideas on how I can make this more helpful lmk!

Show HN: Sunk Cost – How long until a local LLM rig pays for itself?
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#3
43 years to break even on Qwen 3.8 at 25% the speed of the API, lol. I like the idea of local models for really small tasks like automation/toolcalling, but it will probably never make sense for coding. I tried them and it was just excruciating compared to what you get for $100 a month from a subscription.

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#4
I have a home server running vibed applications. VPS host would cost $25/mo or $300/yr.

Mac mini can also build iOS applications. I think if you’re a mobile dev, you can have concurrent builds for your agents instead of everyone waiting on a single machine to finish.

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#8
It pays off instantly, because OpenAI/Anthropic can no longer see what I'm doing and that's worth a lot of money to me. If I am offloading some of my thought processes to a machine, I want to own that machine. And if I finetune the model, I can gain access to parts of thought space that are cordoned off by OpenAI/Anthropic/Alibaba/whomever due to their "alignment" efforts (i.e. alignment to the AI company rather than me). Otherwise, it's like if someone else owns a part of my mind and has a backdoor into my mind.

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#9

I doubt it will ever be cost effective for the foreseeable future. The AI companies have astonishing amounts of compute and they’re effectively dumping it on the market.

"If they are selling it for less than it cost to make, buy as much as you can."

-- Warren Buffett

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