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Europe's "Less" Is Doing More Than Anyone Gives It Credit For

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Re: Europe's "Less" Is Doing More Than Anyone Gives It Credit For

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> The EU now runs on roughly 44 percent less energy per euro of output than it did in 1995, and more than a third of that improvement has landed since 2019 alone.

Is this really a de-industrialization story? Is manufacturing much more efficient since that time, or has the economy moved onto other less energy intensive tasks, say through outsourcing them to Asia?

Re: Europe's "Less" Is Doing More Than Anyone Gives It Credit For

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> Every euro of EU output now takes 44% less energy than it did in 1995, and more than a third of that improvement has landed since 2019.

This is positioned as the key fact of the whole argument, presented first and repeated. But they do not attempt an equivalent US figure. So here's mine.

https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/monthly/pdf/sec1_19.pdf

  1K BTU Consumption per $ of GDP
  1995: 7.77
  2025: 4.04
4.04 / 7.77 ≈ 0.52, so the U.S. uses about 48% less energy per dollar than in 1995, versus 44% per euro for the EU. So pretty much the same as across the pond.

Re: Europe's "Less" Is Doing More Than Anyone Gives It Credit For

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post #4

> Every euro of EU output now takes 44% less energy than it did in 1995, and more than a third of that improvement has landed since 2019. This is positioned as the key fact of the whole argument, presented first and repeated. But they do not attempt an equivalent US figure. So here's mine. https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/monthly/pdf/sec1_19.pdf 1K BTU Consumption per $ of GDP 1995: 7.77 2025: 4.04 4.04 / 7.77 ≈…

And probably both of these can be explained largely by the fact that most of the energy intensive production happens now in Asia.

Re: Europe's "Less" Is Doing More Than Anyone Gives It Credit For

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> Every euro of EU output now takes 44% less energy than it did in 1995, and more than a third of that improvement has landed since 2019. This is positioned as the key fact of the whole argument, presented first and repeated. But they do not attempt an equivalent US figure. So here's mine. https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/monthly/pdf/sec1_19.pdf 1K BTU Consumption per $ of GDP 1995: 7.77 2025: 4.04 4.04 / 7.77 ≈…

Good point. One could counter with the fact that US transitioned to service based and software while EU kept the heavy industry (more) while doing the change

Re: Europe's "Less" Is Doing More Than Anyone Gives It Credit For

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post #4

> Every euro of EU output now takes 44% less energy than it did in 1995, and more than a third of that improvement has landed since 2019. This is positioned as the key fact of the whole argument, presented first and repeated. But they do not attempt an equivalent US figure. So here's mine. https://www.eia.gov/totalenergy/data/monthly/pdf/sec1_19.pdf 1K BTU Consumption per $ of GDP 1995: 7.77 2025: 4.04 4.04 / 7.77 ≈…

Interestingly you're looking at the wrong column: emissions per million USD GDP have gone from 467 metric tons to 206 metric tons. That's an improvement of about 56%. It'd be great if the politicians here in the EU could pull their heads out of their arses long enough to try and match that.
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