LLMs are real, AI is fake
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LLMs are real, AI is fake
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Re: LLMs are real, AI is fake
#2Some really important and informative stuff in here—I certainly had no idea just what the nature of the prompts and tooling that produced the HuggingFace exploit were.
This shows fairly clearly that (as I already suspected) this was not, remotely, an LLM "going rogue." This was humans planning poorly, not thinking of the consequences of their actions, and giving LLMs too much scope and a lousy prompt.
Re: LLMs are real, AI is fake
#3Some really important and informative stuff in here—I certainly had no idea just what the nature of the prompts and tooling that produced the HuggingFace exploit were. This shows fairly clearly that (as I already suspected) this was not, remotely, an LLM "going rogue." This was humans planning poorly, not thinking of the consequences of their actions, and giving LLMs too much scope and a lousy prompt.
I wouldn't even call this "humans planning poorly", I'd call it "humans pretending to plan poorly for publicity". Weasels gonna weasel.
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#4>To understand the truth about the Hugging Face hack, you could do a lot worse than to listen to Ed Zitron and Cal Newport's recent podcast conversation
Lol, okay...
The crux of this piece is Doctorow saying that the hack was just a stochastic parrot repeating steps it has been trained on. Who cares how the LLM learned to hack things? Doesn't really change the facts of what happened. "Oh, it only made those paperclips because it saw instructions on making paper clips in the training data." These are some 2024 arguments...
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#5>To understand the truth about the Hugging Face hack, you could do a lot worse than to listen to Ed Zitron and Cal Newport's recent podcast conversation Lol, okay... The crux of this piece is Doctorow saying that the hack was just a stochastic parrot repeating steps it has been trained on. Who cares how the LLM learned to hack things? Doesn't really change the facts of what happened. "Oh, it only made those paperclip…
I can't help but notice your counter arguments are "lol, okay" and "These are some 2024 arguments".
Not exactly convincing stuff.
Re: LLMs are real, AI is fake
#6>To understand the truth about the Hugging Face hack, you could do a lot worse than to listen to Ed Zitron and Cal Newport's recent podcast conversation Lol, okay... The crux of this piece is Doctorow saying that the hack was just a stochastic parrot repeating steps it has been trained on. Who cares how the LLM learned to hack things? Doesn't really change the facts of what happened. "Oh, it only made those paperclip…
I can't help but notice your counter arguments are "lol, okay" and "These are some 2024 arguments". Not exactly convincing stuff.
It’s shared context for anyone familiar with the field.
Re: LLMs are real, AI is fake
#7>To understand the truth about the Hugging Face hack, you could do a lot worse than to listen to Ed Zitron and Cal Newport's recent podcast conversation Lol, okay... The crux of this piece is Doctorow saying that the hack was just a stochastic parrot repeating steps it has been trained on. Who cares how the LLM learned to hack things? Doesn't really change the facts of what happened. "Oh, it only made those paperclip…
At this point, the "stochastic parrot" people are sounding like they need their prng seeded with less predictable numbers.
Re: LLMs are real, AI is fake
#8Some really important and informative stuff in here—I certainly had no idea just what the nature of the prompts and tooling that produced the HuggingFace exploit were. This shows fairly clearly that (as I already suspected) this was not, remotely, an LLM "going rogue." This was humans planning poorly, not thinking of the consequences of their actions, and giving LLMs too much scope and a lousy prompt.
It was "garbage in, garbage out". That's the only conclusion I've been able to draw from all the propaganda around it.
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#10>To understand the truth about the Hugging Face hack, you could do a lot worse than to listen to Ed Zitron and Cal Newport's recent podcast conversation Lol, okay... The crux of this piece is Doctorow saying that the hack was just a stochastic parrot repeating steps it has been trained on. Who cares how the LLM learned to hack things? Doesn't really change the facts of what happened. "Oh, it only made those paperclip…
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