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Show HN: Zero downtime embedding model upgrades

#1
People use embedding models all the time for rag/semantic retrieval. However, when a newer, more desireable model comes out, there is an expensive (both in time and computational) cost of re-embedding every document in the database.

However, I figured out an interesting way to forgo that upfront embedding cost.

algo:

old model/index -> retrieve top-K docs -> score those docs with the new model -> cache/materialize the new embeddings

so instead of rebuilding the entire vector store upfront, the old index keeps getting retrieved from, while the new model reranks those candidates.

This works surprisingly well for some model pairs, (i tested 63 source-> target migrations on h100s, on upto 1M documents).

For example, on a 1M document Natural Questions dataset,

native Qwen3-Embedding-8B: 0.6812 nDCG@10 Qwen3-4B -> Qwen3-8B, K=50: 0.6816 Qwen3-0.6B -> Qwen3-8B, K=50: 0.6638 MiniLM -> Qwen3-8B, K=50: 0.6486

(the hard part is determining k, I held the k constant above to give some sense of migratability).

You can install it with pip

pip install embedflow

and the code is on github

https://github.com/arnsri33/embedflow

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Re: Show HN: Zero downtime embedding model upgrades

#4

This is not bad, has this been validated at a billion to a trillion documents?

No, I haven't, but it has been validated at 1 million artifacts. Doing a billion to a trillion would have significant gpu cost.

okay, thats alright, this is good. have you looked at other vector database or are you still working on those now